# How big is your cluster state? How much is too much?
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-big-is-your-cluster-state-how-much-is-too-much/59407
**Category:** Elasticsearch
**Created:** [August 31, 2016, 9:44am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-big-is-your-cluster-state-how-much-is-too-much/59407 "2016-08-31T09:44:31Z")
**Posts on this page:** 5
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### Author:  [@hgfxng](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/hgfxng)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2016, 9:44am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-big-is-your-cluster-state-how-much-is-too-much/59407/1 "2016-08-31T09:44:31Z")
Everyone knows that a big cluster state might be a problem, bug how big it can safely go? How much is "too big" and how much is "ok"?
I guess this depends a lot in the network bandwidth between the nodes, but I would like to find some sort of formula that can answer the first question here.
So, I would like contributions to collect some performance numbers using the following command-line. Maybe we can find some sort of general threshold:
My reference cluster has 10 nodes with 7GB heap, and SSDs, all nodes are connected with gigabit interface. The current performance is good.
```
ES=es-node:9200 time curl -s http://$ES/_cluster/state?pretty | wc -lc
62955 2540673
real 0m0.087s
user 0m0.000s
sys 0m0.008s
ES=es-node:9200 curl -s http://$ES/_cat/shards | wc -l
364
```
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### Author:  [@1222kkk](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/1222kkk)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2016, 9:49am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-big-is-your-cluster-state-how-much-is-too-much/59407/2 "2016-08-31T09:49:47Z")
I have read some information about this topic at somewhere in the official guidance.
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### Author:  [@hgfxng](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/hgfxng)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2016, 10:19am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-big-is-your-cluster-state-how-much-is-too-much/59407/3 "2016-08-31T10:19:27Z")
Where? (off course I already searched for it)
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### Author:  [@1222kkk](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/1222kkk)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2016, 1:50am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-big-is-your-cluster-state-how-much-is-too-much/59407/4 "2016-09-01T01:50:09Z")
Oh, I may make a mistake. I can't find them in the official guidance.
I have recently read this in this blog
> **[And the big one said "Rollover" — Managing Elasticsearch time-based indices...](https://www.elastic.co/blog/managing-time-based-indices-efficiently)**
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> Introducing the new Rollover Pattern, and the APIs which support it, which is a simpler, more efficient way of managing time-based indices in Elasticsearch.
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### Author:  [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-big-is-your-cluster-state-how-much-is-too-much/59407/5 "2017-07-05T22:23:26Z")