# How many shards should I have in Elasticsearch Node with v7.7? **URL:** \ **Category:** Elasticsearch\ **Created:** [July 9, 2020, 5:46am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-many-shards-should-i-have-in-elasticsearch-node-with-v7-7/240452 "2020-07-09T05:46:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![begin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/begin/32/98916_2.png) [@begin](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/begin)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 5:46am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-many-shards-should-i-have-in-elasticsearch-node-with-v7-7/240452/1 "2020-07-09T05:46:30Z")
Hello, I know, I keep number of shards per node below 20 per GB heap it has configured. [https://www.elastic.co/blog/how-many-shards-should-i-have-in-my-elasticsearch-cluster](https://www.elastic.co/blog/how-many-shards-should-i-have-in-my-elasticsearch-cluster) But, I know Elasticsearch heap memory usage has decreased significantly from v7.7. [https://www.elastic.co/jp/blog/significantly-decrease-your-elasticsearch-heap-memory-usage](https://www.elastic.co/jp/blog/significantly-decrease-your-elasticsearch-heap-memory-usage) If I configured with version 7.7 or later, should I keep number of shards per node below 20 per GB heap it? ---
**Author:** ![warkolm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/warkolm/32/39224_2.png) [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 7:52am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-many-shards-should-i-have-in-elasticsearch-node-with-v7-7/240452/2 "2020-07-09T07:52:09Z")
Depends, if you have heap available then you can increase it and see how your cluster goes. ---
**Author:** ![begin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/begin/32/98916_2.png) [@begin](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/begin)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 8:13am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-many-shards-should-i-have-in-elasticsearch-node-with-v7-7/240452/3 "2020-07-09T08:13:54Z")
How many shards per GB of heap can I have for a typical shard with v7.7 or later? ---
**Author:** ![warkolm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/warkolm/32/39224_2.png) [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 8:18am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-many-shards-should-i-have-in-elasticsearch-node-with-v7-7/240452/4 "2020-07-09T08:18:44Z")
The majority of work we do around reducing heap is for document based usage. The data required to manage shards is harder to reduce. We have implemented frozen indices and that sort of thing to help though. Ultimately, you will need to see how that works out on your cluster. ---
**Author:** ![begin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/begin/32/98916_2.png) [@begin](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/begin)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 8:22am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-many-shards-should-i-have-in-elasticsearch-node-with-v7-7/240452/5 "2020-07-09T08:22:21Z")
I understand. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/christian_dahlqvist/32/4617_2.png) [@Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Christian_Dahlqvist)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 8:50am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-many-shards-should-i-have-in-elasticsearch-node-with-v7-7/240452/6 "2020-07-09T08:50:59Z")
Searching large number of small shards is often slower than searching a smaller number of larger ones, so it is not just about heap. More shards and indices also increase the size of the cluster state, which can be a factor too, which specially for larger clusters or ones that are dramatically oversharded. ---
**Author:** ![begin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/begin/32/98916_2.png) [@begin](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/begin)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 6:34am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-many-shards-should-i-have-in-elasticsearch-node-with-v7-7/240452/7 "2020-07-10T06:34:47Z")
Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 6:49am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-many-shards-should-i-have-in-elasticsearch-node-with-v7-7/240452/8 "2020-08-07T06:49:15Z")
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