# How to make Curator not exclude system indices?

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-to-make-curator-not-exclude-system-indices/379679>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Tags:** curator\
**Created:** [July 1, 2025, 4:12pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-to-make-curator-not-exclude-system-indices/379679 "2025-07-01T16:12:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![mikewillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@mikewillis](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/mikewillis)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 4:12pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-to-make-curator-not-exclude-system-indices/379679/1 "2025-07-01T16:12:30Z")

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I have an action

```auto
  kibana-snapshot:
    action: snapshot
    description: Backup the Kibana indicies, where all those lovely visualisations and index pattern settings and other good things are stored.
    options:
      timeout_override: 300
      repository: clogs_test
      name: curator-kibana-%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M
      include_global_state: False
    filters:
    - filtertype: pattern
      kind: prefix
      value: .kibana

```

Currently being used with Curator 7. I just tried it with Curator 8.0.21 and it fails because no indices are found. I've figured out this is because as of 8.0.18 Curator excludes system indices by default. What I haven't been able to figure out is, how does one make Curator not exclude system indices?