# How to monitor Elastic Stack without X-Pack?

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-to-monitor-elastic-stack-without-x-pack/118765>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [February 7, 2018, 7:12am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-to-monitor-elastic-stack-without-x-pack/118765 "2018-02-07T07:12:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![amarbl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/cdc98d/32.png) [@amarbl](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/amarbl)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 7:12am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-to-monitor-elastic-stack-without-x-pack/118765/1 "2018-02-07T07:12:23Z")

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Hi Folks,

Can we monitor the elastic stack 6.0 and above(like elastic search..) without using the X-Pack?As we know many of the Features like security, [machine learning](https://mindmajix.com/machine-learning-training), graph APIs don't be supported under BASIC(free Licence). So I want to know if there are any APIs, without Licence limitation, can be used to implement those functionalities mentioned above?

Thank you

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**Author:** ![thomasneirynck](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/thomasneirynck/32/23313_2.png) [@thomasneirynck](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/thomasneirynck)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-to-monitor-elastic-stack-without-x-pack/118765/2 "2018-02-07T20:19:27Z")

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hi @amarbl,

I guess that answer would be "sort of" (?). X-pack is built on top of the Elastic Stack, of which the core apps are open source. So in principal, most features could be built on top of that from scratch I presume. I think it would depend on the specific use-case, if it's worth it foregoing X-Pack and instead write your own custom implementation.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-to-monitor-elastic-stack-without-x-pack/118765/3 "2018-03-07T20:19:34Z")

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