# How to transfer users from an Elastic Cluster to another one

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-to-transfer-users-from-an-elastic-cluster-to-another-one/329366>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Tags:** elastic-stack-security\
**Created:** [April 5, 2023, 4:23am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-to-transfer-users-from-an-elastic-cluster-to-another-one/329366 "2023-04-05T04:23:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Leonardo\_Henrique](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/leonardo_henrique/32/79658_2.png) [@Leonardo\_Henrique](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Leonardo_Henrique)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 4:23am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-to-transfer-users-from-an-elastic-cluster-to-another-one/329366/1 "2023-04-05T04:23:35Z")

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Hey everyone!

I need to copy the users and roles from an Elastic cluster 7.9 to a new 8.3.2 cluster. Is there a way to do that?

Recreating manually is not possible since we have hundreds of users configured and most of the cases, only the users know their credentials (so I just can not ask for that).

Thank you!

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**Author:** ![warkolm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/warkolm/32/39224_2.png) [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 5:22am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-to-transfer-users-from-an-elastic-cluster-to-another-one/329366/2 "2023-04-05T05:22:00Z")

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[Create a snapshot | Elasticsearch Guide [8.7] | Elastic](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/8.7/snapshots-take-snapshot.html#back-up-specific-feature-state) should be what you are after.

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**Author:** ![Leonardo\_Henrique](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/leonardo_henrique/32/79658_2.png) [@Leonardo\_Henrique](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Leonardo_Henrique)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 10:49am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-to-transfer-users-from-an-elastic-cluster-to-another-one/329366/3 "2023-04-05T10:49:40Z")

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Hey mate! That is a cool feature but I am about to copy from a 7.9 cluster, which version does not include this type of feature backup.

Is there any way to do something similar to that in 7.9?

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![warkolm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/warkolm/32/39224_2.png) [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 10:54am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-to-transfer-users-from-an-elastic-cluster-to-another-one/329366/4 "2023-04-05T10:54:54Z")

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Ahh sorry. You would need to take a snapshot of the `.security` index and then restore that.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 10:55am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-to-transfer-users-from-an-elastic-cluster-to-another-one/329366/5 "2023-05-03T10:55:02Z")

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