# How to use Java api UpdateRequest for conditional write with optimistic locking control in place

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-to-use-java-api-updaterequest-for-conditional-write-with-optimistic-locking-control-in-place/327386>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Tags:** language-clients\
**Created:** [March 9, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-to-use-java-api-updaterequest-for-conditional-write-with-optimistic-locking-control-in-place/327386 "2023-03-09T18:28:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![ted2349](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@ted2349](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/ted2349)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-to-use-java-api-updaterequest-for-conditional-write-with-optimistic-locking-control-in-place/327386/1 "2023-03-09T18:28:38Z")

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Hi,

My scenario is

- upsert the whole document with optimistic locking control (seqno/ primary term)
- I also want to do some conditional update meaning I want to update only when current doc's updatedAt is earlier than what I am providing. I also want to see if I can use external version for this purpose which might have a conflict with seqno/primary term conceptually?

Initially what I was thinking is that

- using UpdateRequest ( but not using partial update)
- using Script to apply conditional write
- providing a whole doc to enable Upsert

Can we do these using UpdateRequest? or should I do this as a separated steps? checking updatedAt and then try to update?

Thank you.  
(I am using es 7.17.0)

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/how-to-use-java-api-updaterequest-for-conditional-write-with-optimistic-locking-control-in-place/327386/2 "2023-04-06T18:29:05Z")

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