# I have a question (docs count, deleted value,)

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/i-have-a-question-docs-count-deleted-value/15090>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [January 3, 2014, 5:16am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/i-have-a-question-docs-count-deleted-value/15090 "2014-01-03T05:16:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![jane\_white](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@jane\_white](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jane_white)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:16am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/i-have-a-question-docs-count-deleted-value/15090/1 "2014-01-03T05:16:59Z")

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My elasticsearch version 0.90.8 and, 2 nodes(clustring).

I have a question.  
I used "[http://localhost:9200/\_nodes/stats/indices?pretty=true](http://localhost:9200/_nodes/stats/indices?pretty=true)"

"cluster\_name" : "janecluster",  
"nodes" : {  
"jWjT2xNtQwOdn17oV9KhVg" : {  
"timestamp" : 1388722961082,  
"name" : "node\_es01",  
"transport\_address" : "inet[/?.?.?.?:9300]",  
"hostname" : "localhost.localdomain",  
"attributes" : {  
"master" : "true"  
},  
"indices" : {  
"docs" : {  
"count" : 5025,  
"deleted" : 14  
},

I don't know 'deleted value'. this value always changed. when docs deleted,  
'deleted value' is incresed. but sometime 'deleted value' is decresed.  
example)

deleted value: 14 after a few seconds deleted value: 10

I want to know delete value update time. and how to configure update time?

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**Author:** ![jprante](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/jprante/32/44941_2.png) [@jprante](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jprante)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 8:00am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/i-have-a-question-docs-count-deleted-value/15090/2 "2014-01-03T08:00:29Z")

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What is delete value update time? There is no such thing like update times.

The deletes are the number of deleted doc in the segments, and when  
segments merge, the deletes are physically removed. I do not recommend to  
use this stat as a global counter for deletes since it is completely Lucene  
internal.

Please update to 0.90.9 since 0.90.8 is broken.

Jörg

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 8:50am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/i-have-a-question-docs-count-deleted-value/15090/3 "2014-01-05T08:50:12Z")

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Thanks for your answer.  
In my opinion, 'the deleted value' seems to be updated in a given time  
period.  
It seems that 'the deleted value' dose not indicate realtime data.  
I think 'the deleted value'=realitime data + previous data.

2014년 1월 3일 금요일 오후 5시 0분 29초 UTC+9, Jörg Prante 님의 말:

> What is delete value update time? There is no such thing like update times.
> 
> The deletes are the number of deleted doc in the segments, and when  
> segments merge, the deletes are physically removed. I do not recommend to  
> use this stat as a global counter for deletes since it is completely Lucene  
> internal.
> 
> Please update to 0.90.9 since 0.90.8 is broken.
> 
> Jörg

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/i-have-a-question-docs-count-deleted-value/15090/4 "2017-07-06T01:58:16Z")

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