# "Idle" node traffic

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/idle-node-traffic/18738>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [July 18, 2014, 2:01pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/idle-node-traffic/18738 "2014-07-18T14:01:41Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 2:01pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/idle-node-traffic/18738/1 "2014-07-18T14:01:41Z")

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In a cluster where there is no client activity happening (no index or  
search requests), how much data, roughly, is being sent between the nodes?  
I was able to find a nice blog post from Njal Karevoll at found.no that  
explained all the transport channels per node, but nothing about the  
steady-state volume of data.

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**Author:** ![nik9000](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/nik9000/32/44947_2.png) [@nik9000](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/nik9000)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 2:35pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/idle-node-traffic/18738/2 "2014-07-18T14:35:56Z")

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This node is empty but running in a cluster serving traffic:  
[http://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/?c=Elasticsearch%20cluster%20eqiad&h=elastic1017.eqiad.wmnet&m=cpu\_report&r=hour&s=by%20name&hc=4&mc=2](http://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/?c=Elasticsearch%20cluster%20eqiad&h=elastic1017.eqiad.wmnet&m=cpu_report&r=hour&s=by%20name&hc=4&mc=2)  
Here is the rest of the cluster:  
[http://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/?c=Elasticsearch%20cluster%20eqiad&m=cpu\_report&r=hour&s=by%20name&hc=4&mc=2](http://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/?c=Elasticsearch%20cluster%20eqiad&m=cpu_report&r=hour&s=by%20name&hc=4&mc=2)

Its not exactly what you asked for, but its something. I imagine the  
activity on empty nodes when there is no traffic would be lower but I'm not  
sure by how much.

Nik

On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Glen Smith [glen@smithsrock.com](mailto:glen@smithsrock.com) wrote:

> In a cluster where there is no client activity happening (no index or  
> search requests), how much data, roughly, is being sent between the nodes?  
> I was able to find a nice blog post from Njal Karevoll at found.no that  
> explained all the transport channels per node, but nothing about the  
> steady-state volume of data.
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**Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 5:44pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/idle-node-traffic/18738/3 "2014-07-18T17:44:00Z")

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Thank you very much for the links!

I'm trying to infer what I can from them (looks like there are 19 nodes in  
the cluster, and this single cluster is averaging about 165kBytes/sec sent  
over the last hour.

I'm still hoping there will be a more formal answer detailing the  
node-to-node communications, how it might geometrically increase with the  
number of nodes (since, AFAICT, each node pair is directly connected),  
whether it changes based on the number of indices or shards, etc.

On Friday, July 18, 2014 10:36:25 AM UTC-4, Nikolas Everett wrote:

> This node is empty but running in a cluster serving traffic:
> 
> [http://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/?c=Elasticsearch%20cluster%20eqiad&h=elastic1017.eqiad.wmnet&m=cpu\_report&r=hour&s=by%20name&hc=4&mc=2](http://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/?c=Elasticsearch%20cluster%20eqiad&h=elastic1017.eqiad.wmnet&m=cpu_report&r=hour&s=by%20name&hc=4&mc=2)  
> Here is the rest of the cluster:
> 
> [http://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/?c=Elasticsearch%20cluster%20eqiad&m=cpu\_report&r=hour&s=by%20name&hc=4&mc=2](http://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/?c=Elasticsearch%20cluster%20eqiad&m=cpu_report&r=hour&s=by%20name&hc=4&mc=2)
> 
> Its not exactly what you asked for, but its something. I imagine the  
> activity on empty nodes when there is no traffic would be lower but I'm not  
> sure by how much.
> 
> Nik
> 
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Glen Smith \<[gl...@smithsrock.com](mailto:gl...@smithsrock.com)  
> \<javascript:\>\> wrote:
> 
> > In a cluster where there is no client activity happening (no index or  
> > search requests), how much data, roughly, is being sent between the nodes?  
> > I was able to find a nice blog post from Njal Karevoll at found.no that  
> > explained all the transport channels per node, but nothing about the  
> > steady-state volume of data.
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**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 1:14am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/idle-node-traffic/18738/4 "2017-07-06T01:14:50Z")

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