# IdsFilter == (RealTimeAspect) Real-Time-GET? **URL:** \ **Category:** Elasticsearch\ **Created:** [April 10, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/idsfilter-realtimeaspect-real-time-get/11534 "2013-04-10T15:06:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Hans1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e68b1a/32.png) [@Hans1](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Hans1)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/idsfilter-realtimeaspect-real-time-get/11534/1 "2013-04-10T15:06:13Z")
Hi there, I'm wondering if using an IdsFilter will get me real (!near) real time results as in real time get? Cheers, Hans -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![Ivan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/df788c/32.png) [@Ivan](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Ivan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 4:10pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/idsfilter-realtimeaspect-real-time-get/11534/2 "2013-04-10T16:10:27Z")
IIRC, a Get request will query both the Lucene index and the transaction log (real-time), while any search will only access the Lucene index (near real time). -- Ivan On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Hans [hansmandal@googlemail.com](mailto:hansmandal@googlemail.com) wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm wondering if using an IdsFilter will get me real (!near) real time > results as in real time get? > > Cheers, > Hans > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![spinscale](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/spinscale/32/25011_2.png) [@spinscale](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/spinscale)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 7:33am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/idsfilter-realtimeaspect-real-time-get/11534/3 "2013-04-11T07:33:28Z")
Hey correct. Whenever you are doing a search, you are always relying on lucene search capabilities (even in case you are doing a simple id filter), which means a refresh has to happen, before the data you indexed is available for search. A search does not query the transaction log (because it is a simple journal and not an inverted index suitable for search), where as a GET (which simply uses the id) can check in the transaction log. I am currently trying to sum up a little bit, what happens under the hood, how the transaction log is used to provide real time get (how the transaction log is used for recovery on startup), etc... hopefully I can make a real blog post from that. --Alex On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote: > IIRC, a Get request will query both the Lucene index and the transaction > log (real-time), while any search will only access the Lucene index (near > real time). > > -- > Ivan > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Hans [hansmandal@googlemail.com](mailto:hansmandal@googlemail.com) wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > I'm wondering if using an IdsFilter will get me real (!near) real time > > results as in real time get? > > > > Cheers, > > Hans > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "elasticsearch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![Hans1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e68b1a/32.png) [@Hans1](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Hans1)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 9:52am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/idsfilter-realtimeaspect-real-time-get/11534/4 "2013-04-11T09:52:37Z")
Ok, good to know that, thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 2:41am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/idsfilter-realtimeaspect-real-time-get/11534/5 "2017-07-06T02:41:37Z")