# Ilm-history system index does not start with a dot

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/ilm-history-system-index-does-not-start-with-a-dot/239335>\
**Category:** Kibana\
**Created:** [June 30, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/ilm-history-system-index-does-not-start-with-a-dot/239335 "2020-06-30T15:37:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![ypid-geberit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/ypid-geberit/32/35149_2.png) [@ypid-geberit](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/ypid-geberit)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/ilm-history-system-index-does-not-start-with-a-dot/239335/1 "2020-06-30T15:37:10Z")

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Hi

Here are the typical system indices found when using the Elastic Stack 7.6 (ES and Kibana are relevant here):

```auto
GET _cat/indices?h=i&s=i
.apm-agent-configuration
.kibana_1
.kibana_task_manager_1
.monitoring-alerts-7
.monitoring-es-7-2020.06.30
.monitoring-kibana-7-2020.06.30
.security-7
.triggered_watches
.watcher-history-10-2020.06.30
.watches
ilm-history-1-000001

```

I am wondering why ilm-history is not declared as a system index (which by convention start with a dot). For me, ilm-history feels very similar to .watcher-history for example. Am I missing something?

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**Author:** ![JohannesMahne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/johannesmahne/32/53911_2.png) [@JohannesMahne](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/JohannesMahne)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/ilm-history-system-index-does-not-start-with-a-dot/239335/2 "2020-07-07T06:30:16Z")

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Good question: `ilm-history` was the last addition, at that time, to the group of indices referred to as "system"/"hidden" indices. The new convention to indicate that an index is hidden, is the [static index setting](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/7.8/index-modules.html#_static_index_settings) `"index.hidden": true`.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/ilm-history-system-index-does-not-start-with-a-dot/239335/3 "2020-08-04T06:30:24Z")

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