# Installing kibana 5.0\_alpha4 - no group
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/installing-kibana-5-0-alpha4-no-group/54693
**Category:** Kibana
**Created:** [July 5, 2016, 8:06am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/installing-kibana-5-0-alpha4-no-group/54693 "2016-07-05T08:06:40Z")
**Posts on this page:** 4
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### Author:  [@Ludwig\_Roder](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Ludwig_Roder)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2016, 8:06am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/installing-kibana-5-0-alpha4-no-group/54693/1 "2016-07-05T08:06:40Z")
hi,
when installing kibana5 alpha4 from RPM-Package is is not starting because the group kibana doestn't exist. After "groupadd kibana" and "usermod -g kibana kibana" it's running.
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### Author:  [@Bargs](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Bargs)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2016, 5:47pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/installing-kibana-5-0-alpha4-no-group/54693/2 "2016-07-07T17:47:00Z")
Is this the same issue possibly? [https://github.com/elastic/kibana/issues/7475](https://github.com/elastic/kibana/issues/7475)
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### Author:  [@Ludwig\_Roder](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Ludwig_Roder)
#### Post date: [July 11, 2016, 6:32am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/installing-kibana-5-0-alpha4-no-group/54693/3 "2016-07-11T06:32:05Z")
looks like the same, thanks. btw: i'm using opensuse 13.2 and now i run kibana as user root.
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### Author:  [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2017, 1:47pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/installing-kibana-5-0-alpha4-no-group/54693/4 "2017-07-06T13:47:27Z")