# Is a license needed to use Elasticsearch and Kibana out of docker? **URL:** \ **Category:** Elasticsearch\ **Created:** [July 11, 2017, 11:48pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-a-license-needed-to-use-elasticsearch-and-kibana-out-of-docker/92736 "2017-07-11T23:48:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dvaldivia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/dvaldivia/32/19985_2.png) [@dvaldivia](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dvaldivia)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 11:48pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-a-license-needed-to-use-elasticsearch-and-kibana-out-of-docker/92736/1 "2017-07-11T23:48:07Z")
Hi, I was running my dev environment on Elasticsearch 5.2 and Kibana 5.2, but since I upgraded to 5.3 I'm having all kind of mixed problems due to x-pack being default on ES 5.3, right now I can't connect kibana to ES and some posts suggest it's because I don't have a license for x-pack, is it needed now? ---
**Author:** ![warkolm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/warkolm/32/39224_2.png) [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 1:14am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-a-license-needed-to-use-elasticsearch-and-kibana-out-of-docker/92736/2 "2017-07-12T01:14:42Z")
You don't need one, no. You can disable that in the config or just uninstall the plugin. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 1:14am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-a-license-needed-to-use-elasticsearch-and-kibana-out-of-docker/92736/3 "2017-08-09T01:14:54Z")
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