# Is it necesarry to use Logstash along with Elasticsearch & Kibana **URL:** \ **Category:** Elasticsearch\ **Created:** [December 30, 2018, 2:52pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-it-necesarry-to-use-logstash-along-with-elasticsearch-kibana/162447 "2018-12-30T14:52:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![w0lfxpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/73ab20/32.png) [@w0lfxpunk](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/w0lfxpunk)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 2:52pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-it-necesarry-to-use-logstash-along-with-elasticsearch-kibana/162447/1 "2018-12-30T14:52:28Z")
Hello All, As we now send data using Filebeat, I am just curious to know that we should send the data to logstash first or we should directly send it to Elasticsearch? What is the difference ? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![dadoonet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/dadoonet/32/137187_2.png) [@dadoonet](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dadoonet)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 7:33pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-it-necesarry-to-use-logstash-along-with-elasticsearch-kibana/162447/2 "2018-12-30T19:33:26Z")
If you don't need super advanced transformation of your logs, just seyto elasticsearch ---
**Author:** ![w0lfxpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/73ab20/32.png) [@w0lfxpunk](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/w0lfxpunk)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 7:09am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-it-necesarry-to-use-logstash-along-with-elasticsearch-kibana/162447/3 "2018-12-31T07:09:40Z")
Thank you for your reply, can you please tell me bit in details about "super advanced transformation of logs"? May be say Apache logs ? ---
**Author:** ![dadoonet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/dadoonet/32/137187_2.png) [@dadoonet](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dadoonet)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 8:39am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-it-necesarry-to-use-logstash-along-with-elasticsearch-kibana/162447/4 "2018-12-31T08:39:22Z")
Apache logs only needs grok, geoip and user agent processors basically. So I'd not use logstash for this but just elasticsearch. ---
**Author:** ![w0lfxpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/73ab20/32.png) [@w0lfxpunk](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/w0lfxpunk)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 12:12pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-it-necesarry-to-use-logstash-along-with-elasticsearch-kibana/162447/5 "2018-12-31T12:12:37Z")
ok so what other logs we might need to use Logstash for ? ---
**Author:** ![Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/christian_dahlqvist/32/4617_2.png) [@Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Christian_Dahlqvist)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 12:19pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-it-necesarry-to-use-logstash-along-with-elasticsearch-kibana/162447/6 "2018-12-31T12:19:52Z")
It depends on your sources, destinations and processing needs. Have a look at [this blog post](https://www.elastic.co/blog/should-i-use-logstash-or-elasticsearch-ingest-nodes) for an overview of the difference in capabilities between Logstash and Elasticsearch ingest nodes. ---
**Author:** ![w0lfxpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/73ab20/32.png) [@w0lfxpunk](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/w0lfxpunk)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 8:26am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-it-necesarry-to-use-logstash-along-with-elasticsearch-kibana/162447/7 "2019-01-02T08:26:35Z")
Thank you for your reply and the link ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 8:26am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-it-necesarry-to-use-logstash-along-with-elasticsearch-kibana/162447/8 "2019-01-30T08:26:40Z")
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