# Is there a means to associate private (non-es) metadata with an index? **URL:** \ **Category:** Elasticsearch\ **Created:** [January 1, 2012, 4:30am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-there-a-means-to-associate-private-non-es-metadata-with-an-index/6262 "2012-01-01T04:30:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![derrickburns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@derrickburns](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/derrickburns)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 4:30am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-there-a-means-to-associate-private-non-es-metadata-with-an-index/6262/1 "2012-01-01T04:30:02Z")
I know that I can create a new type within an index to store data, but I want to be able to read the metadata without the index being open, much like one can read index settings. Is there a way to do that? Would it make sense to allow setting private metadata using the "update settings interface"? ---
**Author:** ![David\_Stendardi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/david_stendardi/32/2990_2.png) [@David\_Stendardi](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/David_Stendardi)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2012, 7:19am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-there-a-means-to-associate-private-non-es-metadata-with-an-index/6262/2 "2012-01-02T07:19:17Z")
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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 3:44am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-there-a-means-to-associate-private-non-es-metadata-with-an-index/6262/3 "2017-07-06T03:44:03Z")