# Is there any option to implement the Authentication or Role based access without X-pack in the latest Kibana 6.4

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-there-any-option-to-implement-the-authentication-or-role-based-access-without-x-pack-in-the-latest-kibana-6-4/158467>\
**Category:** Kibana\
**Created:** [November 28, 2018, 6:09am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-there-any-option-to-implement-the-authentication-or-role-based-access-without-x-pack-in-the-latest-kibana-6-4/158467 "2018-11-28T06:09:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sunil\_Edupuganti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@Sunil\_Edupuganti](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Sunil_Edupuganti)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 6:09am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-there-any-option-to-implement-the-authentication-or-role-based-access-without-x-pack-in-the-latest-kibana-6-4/158467/1 "2018-11-28T06:09:00Z")

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Hi,  
I have installed the latest kibana and Elastic search 6.4.3 versions. While installing by default we got the X-pack feature which we use it to implement the Authentication or Role-based access. But, Is there any option to implement this authentication without X-pack?

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**Author:** ![Brandon\_Kobel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/brandon_kobel/32/14829_2.png) [@Brandon\_Kobel](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Brandon_Kobel)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 2:36pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-there-any-option-to-implement-the-authentication-or-role-based-access-without-x-pack-in-the-latest-kibana-6-4/158467/2 "2018-11-28T14:36:34Z")

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Hey @Sunil_Edupuganti, there are a few alternate solutions out there, but X-Pack is definitely what we recommend. Is your hesitation to using x-pack the pricing? Have you evaluated using our hosted version of [Elasticsearch Service](https://www.elastic.co/cloud/elasticsearch-service) which comes with X-Pack?

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**Author:** ![Sunil\_Edupuganti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@Sunil\_Edupuganti](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Sunil_Edupuganti)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-there-any-option-to-implement-the-authentication-or-role-based-access-without-x-pack-in-the-latest-kibana-6-4/158467/3 "2018-11-28T14:51:45Z")

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Yeah, we are in the process of evaluation. Actually we have implemented the authentication using X-Pack. But we are thinking about its cost. That's the reason we are looking for an alternative instead of X-Pack.

Could you please tell me, Is there any other alternative?

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-there-any-option-to-implement-the-authentication-or-role-based-access-without-x-pack-in-the-latest-kibana-6-4/158467/4 "2018-12-26T14:51:57Z")

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