# Is there any way to run Marvel 2.3.1 without Kibana? **URL:** \ **Category:** Kibana\ **Tags:** elastic-stack-monitoring\ **Created:** [April 26, 2016, 3:22pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-there-any-way-to-run-marvel-2-3-1-without-kibana/48447 "2016-04-26T15:22:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![magicdude4eva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/magicdude4eva/32/9286_2.png) [@magicdude4eva](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/magicdude4eva)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 3:22pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-there-any-way-to-run-marvel-2-3-1-without-kibana/48447/1 "2016-04-26T15:22:56Z")
For users running Graylog and ES2, the requirement to install Kibana to use Marvel is a bit over the top. This worked perfectly fine in 1.3 releases. What is the option without having to install Kibana just have the plugin work? ---
**Author:** ![pickypg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/pickypg/32/62409_2.png) [@pickypg](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/pickypg)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 3:27pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-there-any-way-to-run-marvel-2-3-1-without-kibana/48447/2 "2016-04-26T15:27:18Z")
UI code has no business living inside of Elasticsearch. On the other hand, the Marvel 2.x UI plugin was written for Kibana because it's a natural place for UI code to live. The `marvel-agent` plugin works without the UI, but to visualize the data automatically, you will need Kibana and the `marvel` UI plugin. For what it's worth, Kibana is lightweight. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 1:43pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/is-there-any-way-to-run-marvel-2-3-1-without-kibana/48447/3 "2017-07-06T13:43:51Z")