# Jdk fails with out of memory error / es critical index counts

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**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [May 4, 2014, 2:13pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/jdk-fails-with-out-of-memory-error-es-critical-index-counts/17335 "2014-05-04T14:13:09Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 4, 2014, 2:13pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/jdk-fails-with-out-of-memory-error-es-critical-index-counts/17335/1 "2014-05-04T14:13:09Z")

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elasticsearch is set as a single node instance on a 60G RAM and 32\*2.6GHz  
machine. I am actively indexing historic data with logstash. It worked well  
with ~300 million documents (search and indexing were doing ok) , but all  
of a sudden es fails to starts and keep itself up. It starts for few  
minutes and I can query but fails with out of memory error. I monitor the  
memory and atleast 12G of memory is available when it fails. I had set the  
es\_heap\_size to 31G and then reduced it to 28, 24 and 18 and the same error  
every time (see dump below)

\*My security limits are as under (this is a test/POC server thus "root"  
user) \*

root soft nofile 65536  
root hard nofile 65536  
root - memlock unlimited

\*ES settings \*  
config]# grep -v "^#" elasticsearch.yml | grep -v "^$"  
bootstrap.mlockall: true

_echo $ES\_HEAP\_SIZE_  
18432m

---DUMP----

# bin/elasticsearch

[2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
version[1.1.1], pid[19309], build[f1585f0/2014-04-16T14:27:12Z]  
[2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
initializing ...  
[2014-05-04 13:30:12,669][INFO][plugins] [Sabretooth]  
loaded [], sites []  
[2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
initialized  
[2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
starting ...  
[2014-05-04 13:30:15,531][INFO][transport] [Sabretooth]  
bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9300]}, publish\_address  
{inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]}  
[2014-05-04 13:30:18,553][INFO][cluster.service] [Sabretooth]  
new\_master  
[Sabretooth][eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw][ip-10-109-136-59][inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]],  
reason: zen-disco-join (elected\_as\_master)  
[2014-05-04 13:30:18,579][INFO][discovery] [Sabretooth]  
elasticsearch/eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw  
[2014-05-04 13:30:18,790][INFO][http] [Sabretooth]  
bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9200]}, publish\_address  
{inet[/10.109.136.59:9200]}  
[2014-05-04 13:30:19,976][INFO][gateway] [Sabretooth]  
recovered [278] indices into cluster\_state  
[2014-05-04 13:30:19,984][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
started  
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to protect stack guard pages  
failed.  
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to deallocate stack guard pages  
failed.  
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: INFO:  
os::commit\_memory(0x00000007f7c70000, 196608, 0) failed; error='Cannot  
allocate memory' (errno=12)

# 

# There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment to continue.

# Native memory allocation (malloc) failed to allocate 196608 bytes for

committing reserved memory.

# An error report file with more information is saved as:

# /tmp/jvm-19309/hs\_error.log

* * *

\*user untergeek on #logstash told me that I have reached a max number of  
indices on a single node. Here are my questions: \*

1. Can I move half of my indexes to a new node ? If yes, how to do that  
without compromising indexes
2. Logstash makes 1 index per day and I want to have 2 years of data  
indexable ; Can I combine multiple indexes into one ? Like one month per  
month : this will mean I will not have more than 24 indexes.
3. How many nodes are ideal for 24 moths of data ~1.5G a day

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2014, 6:09pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/jdk-fails-with-out-of-memory-error-es-critical-index-counts/17335/2 "2014-05-05T18:09:42Z")

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So I tried to move some of the indexes to a new node ;  
I moved1 index first and when elasticsearch master encountered a data node,  
it identified that "hey, I don't have all the indexes that are in the other  
node, so lets copy it"  
\*MASTER: \*  
[2014-05-05 17:59:43,158][INFO][gateway.local.state.meta] [node1] auto  
importing dangled indices [logstash-2013.12.31/OPEN] from  
[[node2][aV-5pfthS8aEGlHRlAgFwA][ip-10-63-24-14][inet[/10.63.24.14:9300]]{master=false}]

\*NODE: \*  
[2014-05-05 17:59:33,974][INFO][gateway.local.state.meta] [node2]  
[logstash-2013.12.31] dangling index, exists on local file system, but not  
in cluster metadata, scheduling to delete in [2h], auto import to cluster  
state [YES]

If I set gateway.local.auto\_import\_dangled=no ; it says that it will  
delete the indexes in 2 hours (default time) which I don't want.

So we are back to square one. I can't seem to achieve the most  
"fundamental" distributive nature of elasticsearch if it keeps all indexes  
on all nodes and elasticsearch cannot start because now it has all the  
indexes on one node and that are too many

On Sunday, May 4, 2014 10:13:09 AM UTC-4, Nish wrote:

> elasticsearch is set as a single node instance on a 60G RAM and 32\*2.6GHz  
> machine. I am actively indexing historic data with logstash. It worked well  
> with ~300 million documents (search and indexing were doing ok) , but all  
> of a sudden es fails to starts and keep itself up. It starts for few  
> minutes and I can query but fails with out of memory error. I monitor the  
> memory and atleast 12G of memory is available when it fails. I had set the  
> es\_heap\_size to 31G and then reduced it to 28, 24 and 18 and the same error  
> every time (see dump below)
> 
> \*My security limits are as under (this is a test/POC server thus "root"  
> user) \*
> 
> root soft nofile 65536  
> root hard nofile 65536  
> root - memlock unlimited
> 
> \*ES settings \*  
> config]# grep -v "^#" elasticsearch.yml | grep -v "^$"  
> bootstrap.mlockall: true
> 
> _echo $ES\_HEAP\_SIZE_  
> 18432m
> 
> ---DUMP----
> 
> # bin/elasticsearch
> 
> [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
> version[1.1.1], pid[19309], build[f1585f0/2014-04-16T14:27:12Z]  
> [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
> initializing ...  
> [2014-05-04 13:30:12,669][INFO][plugins] [Sabretooth]  
> loaded , sites   
> [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
> initialized  
> [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
> starting ...  
> [2014-05-04 13:30:15,531][INFO][transport] [Sabretooth]  
> bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9300]}, publish\_address {inet[/  
> 10.109.136.59:9300]}  
> [2014-05-04 13:30:18,553][INFO][cluster.service] [Sabretooth]  
> new\_master  
> [Sabretooth][eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw][ip-10-109-136-59][inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]],  
> reason: zen-disco-join (elected\_as\_master)  
> [2014-05-04 13:30:18,579][INFO][discovery] [Sabretooth]  
> elasticsearch/eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw  
> [2014-05-04 13:30:18,790][INFO][http] [Sabretooth]  
> bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9200]}, publish\_address {inet[/  
> 10.109.136.59:9200]}  
> [2014-05-04 13:30:19,976][INFO][gateway] [Sabretooth]  
> recovered [278] indices into cluster\_state  
> [2014-05-04 13:30:19,984][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
> started  
> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to protect stack guard pages  
> failed.  
> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to deallocate stack guard pages  
> failed.  
> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: INFO:  
> os::commit\_memory(0x00000007f7c70000, 196608, 0) failed; error='Cannot  
> allocate memory' (errno=12)
> 
> # 
> 
> # There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment to
> 
> continue.
> 
> # Native memory allocation (malloc) failed to allocate 196608 bytes for
> 
> committing reserved memory.
> 
> # An error report file with more information is saved as:
> 
> # /tmp/jvm-19309/hs\_error.log
> 
> * * *
> 
> \*user untergeek on #logstash told me that I have reached a max number of  
> indices on a single node. Here are my questions: \*
> 
> 1. Can I move half of my indexes to a new node ? If yes, how to do  
> that without compromising indexes
> 2. Logstash makes 1 index per day and I want to have 2 years of data  
> indexable ; Can I combine multiple indexes into one ? Like one month per  
> month : this will mean I will not have more than 24 indexes.
> 3. How many nodes are ideal for 24 moths of data ~1.5G a day

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2014, 7:25pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/jdk-fails-with-out-of-memory-error-es-critical-index-counts/17335/3 "2014-05-05T19:25:05Z")

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How many indexes do you have? It almost looks like the system itself cant  
allocate the ram needed?  
You might try jacking up the nofile to something like 999999 as well? I'd  
definitely go with 31g heapsize.

As for moving indexes, you might be able to copy the entire data store,  
then remove some (I think there's some state files that tell ES/Lucene  
which indexes are on disk), so it might recover if its missing some and  
sees the others on another node?

As for your other questions, it depends on usage as to how many nodes -  
especially search activity while indexing. We have 230 indexes (1740  
shards) on 8 data nodes (5.7Tb / 6.1B docs). So it can definitely handle a  
lot more than what you're throwing at it. We dont search often nor do we  
load a ton of data at once.

On Sunday, May 4, 2014 7:13:09 AM UTC-7, Nish wrote:

> elasticsearch is set as a single node instance on a 60G RAM and 32\*2.6GHz  
> machine. I am actively indexing historic data with logstash. It worked well  
> with ~300 million documents (search and indexing were doing ok) , but all  
> of a sudden es fails to starts and keep itself up. It starts for few  
> minutes and I can query but fails with out of memory error. I monitor the  
> memory and atleast 12G of memory is available when it fails. I had set the  
> es\_heap\_size to 31G and then reduced it to 28, 24 and 18 and the same error  
> every time (see dump below)
> 
> \*My security limits are as under (this is a test/POC server thus "root"  
> user) \*
> 
> root soft nofile 65536  
> root hard nofile 65536  
> root - memlock unlimited
> 
> \*ES settings \*  
> config]# grep -v "^#" elasticsearch.yml | grep -v "^$"  
> bootstrap.mlockall: true
> 
> _echo $ES\_HEAP\_SIZE_  
> 18432m
> 
> ---DUMP----
> 
> # bin/elasticsearch
> 
> [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
> version[1.1.1], pid[19309], build[f1585f0/2014-04-16T14:27:12Z]  
> [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
> initializing ...  
> [2014-05-04 13:30:12,669][INFO][plugins] [Sabretooth]  
> loaded , sites   
> [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
> initialized  
> [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
> starting ...  
> [2014-05-04 13:30:15,531][INFO][transport] [Sabretooth]  
> bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9300]}, publish\_address {inet[/  
> 10.109.136.59:9300]}  
> [2014-05-04 13:30:18,553][INFO][cluster.service] [Sabretooth]  
> new\_master  
> [Sabretooth][eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw][ip-10-109-136-59][inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]],  
> reason: zen-disco-join (elected\_as\_master)  
> [2014-05-04 13:30:18,579][INFO][discovery] [Sabretooth]  
> elasticsearch/eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw  
> [2014-05-04 13:30:18,790][INFO][http] [Sabretooth]  
> bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9200]}, publish\_address {inet[/  
> 10.109.136.59:9200]}  
> [2014-05-04 13:30:19,976][INFO][gateway] [Sabretooth]  
> recovered [278] indices into cluster\_state  
> [2014-05-04 13:30:19,984][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
> started  
> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to protect stack guard pages  
> failed.  
> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to deallocate stack guard pages  
> failed.  
> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: INFO:  
> os::commit\_memory(0x00000007f7c70000, 196608, 0) failed; error='Cannot  
> allocate memory' (errno=12)
> 
> # 
> 
> # There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment to
> 
> continue.
> 
> # Native memory allocation (malloc) failed to allocate 196608 bytes for
> 
> committing reserved memory.
> 
> # An error report file with more information is saved as:
> 
> # /tmp/jvm-19309/hs\_error.log
> 
> * * *
> 
> \*user untergeek on #logstash told me that I have reached a max number of  
> indices on a single node. Here are my questions: \*
> 
> 1. Can I move half of my indexes to a new node ? If yes, how to do  
> that without compromising indexes
> 2. Logstash makes 1 index per day and I want to have 2 years of data  
> indexable ; Can I combine multiple indexes into one ? Like one month per  
> month : this will mean I will not have more than 24 indexes.
> 3. How many nodes are ideal for 24 moths of data ~1.5G a day

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2014, 7:32pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/jdk-fails-with-out-of-memory-error-es-critical-index-counts/17335/4 "2014-05-05T19:32:35Z")

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Currently I have 279 indexes on a single node and elasticsearch starts for  
few minutes and dies ; I only have 60G RAM on disk and as far as I know 60%  
is the max that one should allocate to elasticsearch ; I tried allocating  
38G and it lasted for few more minutes and it died.

_(I think there's some state files that tell ES/Lucene which indexes are on  
disk)_ =\> Where is this ? How do I fix it so that it doesn't move all  
indexes to all nodes ? I want to split the ~280 indexes into two nodes of  
140each. So far I am not able to achieve this as the master keeps moving  
nodes to itself !

On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:25:05 PM UTC-4, Nate Fox wrote:

> How many indexes do you have? It almost looks like the system itself cant  
> allocate the ram needed?  
> You might try jacking up the nofile to something like 999999 as well? I'd  
> definitely go with 31g heapsize.
> 
> As for moving indexes, you might be able to copy the entire data store,  
> then remove some (I think there's some state files that tell ES/Lucene  
> which indexes are on disk), so it might recover if its missing some and  
> sees the others on another node?
> 
> As for your other questions, it depends on usage as to how many nodes -  
> especially search activity while indexing. We have 230 indexes (1740  
> shards) on 8 data nodes (5.7Tb / 6.1B docs). So it can definitely handle a  
> lot more than what you're throwing at it. We dont search often nor do we  
> load a ton of data at once.
> 
> On Sunday, May 4, 2014 7:13:09 AM UTC-7, Nish wrote:
> 
> > elasticsearch is set as a single node instance on a 60G RAM and  
> > 32\*2.6GHz machine. I am actively indexing historic data with logstash. It  
> > worked well with ~300 million documents (search and indexing were doing ok)  
> > , but all of a sudden es fails to starts and keep itself up. It starts for  
> > few minutes and I can query but fails with out of memory error. I monitor  
> > the memory and atleast 12G of memory is available when it fails. I had set  
> > the es\_heap\_size to 31G and then reduced it to 28, 24 and 18 and the same  
> > error every time (see dump below)
> > 
> > \*My security limits are as under (this is a test/POC server thus "root"  
> > user) \*
> > 
> > root soft nofile 65536  
> > root hard nofile 65536  
> > root - memlock unlimited
> > 
> > \*ES settings \*  
> > config]# grep -v "^#" elasticsearch.yml | grep -v "^$"  
> > bootstrap.mlockall: true
> > 
> > _echo $ES\_HEAP\_SIZE_  
> > 18432m
> > 
> > ---DUMP----
> > 
> > # bin/elasticsearch
> > 
> > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
> > version[1.1.1], pid[19309], build[f1585f0/2014-04-16T14:27:12Z]  
> > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
> > initializing ...  
> > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,669][INFO][plugins] [Sabretooth]  
> > loaded , sites   
> > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
> > initialized  
> > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
> > starting ...  
> > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,531][INFO][transport] [Sabretooth]  
> > bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9300]}, publish\_address {inet[/  
> > 10.109.136.59:9300]}  
> > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,553][INFO][cluster.service] [Sabretooth]  
> > new\_master  
> > [Sabretooth][eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw][ip-10-109-136-59][inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]],  
> > reason: zen-disco-join (elected\_as\_master)  
> > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,579][INFO][discovery] [Sabretooth]  
> > elasticsearch/eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw  
> > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,790][INFO][http] [Sabretooth]  
> > bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9200]}, publish\_address {inet[/  
> > 10.109.136.59:9200]}  
> > [2014-05-04 13:30:19,976][INFO][gateway] [Sabretooth]  
> > recovered [278] indices into cluster\_state  
> > [2014-05-04 13:30:19,984][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
> > started  
> > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to protect stack guard pages  
> > failed.  
> > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to deallocate stack guard pages  
> > failed.  
> > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: INFO:  
> > os::commit\_memory(0x00000007f7c70000, 196608, 0) failed; error='Cannot  
> > allocate memory' (errno=12)
> > 
> > # 
> > 
> > # There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment to
> > 
> > continue.
> > 
> > # Native memory allocation (malloc) failed to allocate 196608 bytes for
> > 
> > committing reserved memory.
> > 
> > # An error report file with more information is saved as:
> > 
> > # /tmp/jvm-19309/hs\_error.log
> > 
> > * * *
> > 
> > \*user untergeek on #logstash told me that I have reached a max number of  
> > indices on a single node. Here are my questions: \*
> > 
> > 1. Can I move half of my indexes to a new node ? If yes, how to do  
> > that without compromising indexes
> > 2. Logstash makes 1 index per day and I want to have 2 years of data  
> > indexable ; Can I combine multiple indexes into one ? Like one month per  
> > month : this will mean I will not have more than 24 indexes.
> > 3. How many nodes are ideal for 24 moths of data ~1.5G a day

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2014, 7:44pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/jdk-fails-with-out-of-memory-error-es-critical-index-counts/17335/5 "2014-05-05T19:44:17Z")

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You might turn off the bootstrap.mlockall flag just for now - it'll make ES  
swap a ton, but your error message looks like an OS level issue. Make sure  
you have lots of swap available and grab some coffee.

What I'd also try if turning off bootstrap.mlockall doesnt work:

- Tarball the entire data directory and save the tarball somewhere (unless  
you dont care about the data)
- Set 31Gb for your ES HEAP. There's plenty of docs out there that say not  
to go over 32Gb of ram cause it'll cause Java to go into 64bit mode.
- Copy the entire data dir to node2
- Go into the data dir on node1 and delete half of the indexes
- Go into the data dir on node2 and delete the _other_ half of the indexes
- Fire up both nodes, make sure they both have the same cluster name

I have no idea if this'll work, I'm by no means an ES expert. 🙂

On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Nish [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com) wrote:

> Currently I have 279 indexes on a single node and elasticsearch starts for  
> few minutes and dies ; I only have 60G RAM on disk and as far as I know 60%  
> is the max that one should allocate to elasticsearch ; I tried allocating  
> 38G and it lasted for few more minutes and it died.
> 
> _(I think there's some state files that tell ES/Lucene which indexes are  
> on disk)_ =\> Where is this ? How do I fix it so that it doesn't move all  
> indexes to all nodes ? I want to split the ~280 indexes into two nodes of  
> 140each. So far I am not able to achieve this as the master keeps moving  
> nodes to itself !
> 
> On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:25:05 PM UTC-4, Nate Fox wrote:
> 
> > How many indexes do you have? It almost looks like the system itself cant  
> > allocate the ram needed?  
> > You might try jacking up the nofile to something like 999999 as well? I'd  
> > definitely go with 31g heapsize.
> > 
> > As for moving indexes, you might be able to copy the entire data store,  
> > then remove some (I think there's some state files that tell ES/Lucene  
> > which indexes are on disk), so it might recover if its missing some and  
> > sees the others on another node?
> > 
> > As for your other questions, it depends on usage as to how many nodes -  
> > especially search activity while indexing. We have 230 indexes (1740  
> > shards) on 8 data nodes (5.7Tb / 6.1B docs). So it can definitely handle a  
> > lot more than what you're throwing at it. We dont search often nor do we  
> > load a ton of data at once.
> > 
> > On Sunday, May 4, 2014 7:13:09 AM UTC-7, Nish wrote:
> > 
> > > elasticsearch is set as a single node instance on a 60G RAM and  
> > > 32\*2.6GHz machine. I am actively indexing historic data with logstash. It  
> > > worked well with ~300 million documents (search and indexing were doing ok)  
> > > , but all of a sudden es fails to starts and keep itself up. It starts for  
> > > few minutes and I can query but fails with out of memory error. I monitor  
> > > the memory and atleast 12G of memory is available when it fails. I had set  
> > > the es\_heap\_size to 31G and then reduced it to 28, 24 and 18 and the same  
> > > error every time (see dump below)
> > > 
> > > \*My security limits are as under (this is a test/POC server thus "root"  
> > > user) \*
> > > 
> > > root soft nofile 65536  
> > > root hard nofile 65536  
> > > root - memlock unlimited
> > > 
> > > \*ES settings \*  
> > > config]# grep -v "^#" elasticsearch.yml | grep -v "^$"  
> > > bootstrap.mlockall: true
> > > 
> > > _echo $ES\_HEAP\_SIZE_  
> > > 18432m
> > > 
> > > ---DUMP----
> > > 
> > > # bin/elasticsearch
> > > 
> > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
> > > version[1.1.1], pid[19309], build[f1585f0/2014-04-16T14:27:12Z]  
> > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
> > > initializing ...  
> > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,669][INFO][plugins] [Sabretooth]  
> > > loaded , sites   
> > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
> > > initialized  
> > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
> > > starting ...  
> > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,531][INFO][transport] [Sabretooth]  
> > > bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9300]}, publish\_address {inet[/  
> > > 10.109.136.59:9300]}  
> > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,553][INFO][cluster.service] [Sabretooth]  
> > > new\_master [Sabretooth][eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw][ip-10-109-136-59][inet[/  
> > > 10.109.136.59:9300]], reason: zen-disco-join (elected\_as\_master)  
> > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,579][INFO][discovery] [Sabretooth]  
> > > elasticsearch/eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw  
> > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,790][INFO][http] [Sabretooth]  
> > > bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9200]}, publish\_address {inet[/  
> > > 10.109.136.59:9200]}  
> > > [2014-05-04 13:30:19,976][INFO][gateway] [Sabretooth]  
> > > recovered [278] indices into cluster\_state  
> > > [2014-05-04 13:30:19,984][INFO][node] [Sabretooth]  
> > > started  
> > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to protect stack guard pages  
> > > failed.  
> > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to deallocate stack guard  
> > > pages failed.  
> > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: INFO: os::commit\_memory(0x00000007f7c70000,  
> > > 196608, 0) failed; error='Cannot allocate memory' (errno=12)
> > > 
> > > # 
> > > 
> > > # There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment to
> > > 
> > > continue.
> > > 
> > > # Native memory allocation (malloc) failed to allocate 196608 bytes for
> > > 
> > > committing reserved memory.
> > > 
> > > # An error report file with more information is saved as:
> > > 
> > > # /tmp/jvm-19309/hs\_error.log
> > > 
> > > * * *
> > > 
> > > \*user untergeek on #logstash told me that I have reached a max number of  
> > > indices on a single node. Here are my questions: \*
> > > 
> > > 1. Can I move half of my indexes to a new node ? If yes, how to do  
> > > that without compromising indexes
> > > 2. Logstash makes 1 index per day and I want to have 2 years of data  
> > > indexable ; Can I combine multiple indexes into one ? Like one month per  
> > > month : this will mean I will not have more than 24 indexes.
> > > 3. How many nodes are ideal for 24 moths of data ~1.5G a day
> > > 
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**Post date:** [May 5, 2014, 8:19pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/jdk-fails-with-out-of-memory-error-es-critical-index-counts/17335/6 "2014-05-05T20:19:30Z")

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_.."- Fire up both nodes, make sure they both have the same cluster name"_\<= This is exactly what I wrote in my second message is where Elasticsearch  
is messing up. When I move the index to a new node and delete that index  
from master and then start master node and other data node, it (master)  
throws a message:  
"auto importing dangled indices"  
This means master is now copying the "deleted" index that exists only on  
other node to itself !

Basically this is what happens:

1. Node1 Master: rock,paper,scissors
2. I move rock from Node 1 to Node 2 (I verify by starting ONLY node1  
and I can see that I am missing data that was originally in "rock" index,  
as expected, all good)
3. SO node1 now has paper,scissors
4. I start Node2 with ONLY "rock" index (verify independently, it works)
5. Then I start node 1 (master) and node 2(data)
6. Node1 sees says "hey I don't have rock, but node2 has it, let me copy  
it to myself"

On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:44:17 PM UTC-4, Nate Fox wrote:

> You might turn off the bootstrap.mlockall flag just for now - it'll make  
> ES swap a ton, but your error message looks like an OS level issue. Make  
> sure you have lots of swap available and grab some coffee.
> 
> What I'd also try if turning off bootstrap.mlockall doesnt work:
> 
> - Tarball the entire data directory and save the tarball somewhere (unless  
> you dont care about the data)
> - Set 31Gb for your ES HEAP. There's plenty of docs out there that say not  
> to go over 32Gb of ram cause it'll cause Java to go into 64bit mode.
> - Copy the entire data dir to node2
> - Go into the data dir on node1 and delete half of the indexes
> - Go into the data dir on node2 and delete the _other_ half of the indexes
> - Fire up both nodes, make sure they both have the same cluster name
> 
> I have no idea if this'll work, I'm by no means an ES expert. 🙂
> 
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Nish \<[elect...@gmail.com](mailto:elect...@gmail.com) \<javascript:\>\>wrote:
> 
> > Currently I have 279 indexes on a single node and elasticsearch starts  
> > for few minutes and dies ; I only have 60G RAM on disk and as far as I know  
> > 60% is the max that one should allocate to elasticsearch ; I tried  
> > allocating 38G and it lasted for few more minutes and it died.
> > 
> > _(I think there's some state files that tell ES/Lucene which indexes are  
> > on disk)_ =\> Where is this ? How do I fix it so that it doesn't move all  
> > indexes to all nodes ? I want to split the ~280 indexes into two nodes of  
> > 140each. So far I am not able to achieve this as the master keeps moving  
> > nodes to itself !
> > 
> > On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:25:05 PM UTC-4, Nate Fox wrote:
> > 
> > > How many indexes do you have? It almost looks like the system itself  
> > > cant allocate the ram needed?  
> > > You might try jacking up the nofile to something like 999999 as well?  
> > > I'd definitely go with 31g heapsize.
> > > 
> > > As for moving indexes, you might be able to copy the entire data store,  
> > > then remove some (I think there's some state files that tell ES/Lucene  
> > > which indexes are on disk), so it might recover if its missing some and  
> > > sees the others on another node?
> > > 
> > > As for your other questions, it depends on usage as to how many nodes -  
> > > especially search activity while indexing. We have 230 indexes (1740  
> > > shards) on 8 data nodes (5.7Tb / 6.1B docs). So it can definitely handle a  
> > > lot more than what you're throwing at it. We dont search often nor do we  
> > > load a ton of data at once.
> > > 
> > > On Sunday, May 4, 2014 7:13:09 AM UTC-7, Nish wrote:
> > > 
> > > > elasticsearch is set as a single node instance on a 60G RAM and  
> > > > 32\*2.6GHz machine. I am actively indexing historic data with logstash. It  
> > > > worked well with ~300 million documents (search and indexing were doing ok)  
> > > > , but all of a sudden es fails to starts and keep itself up. It starts for  
> > > > few minutes and I can query but fails with out of memory error. I monitor  
> > > > the memory and atleast 12G of memory is available when it fails. I had set  
> > > > the es\_heap\_size to 31G and then reduced it to 28, 24 and 18 and the same  
> > > > error every time (see dump below)
> > > > 
> > > > \*My security limits are as under (this is a test/POC server thus  
> > > > "root" user) \*
> > > > 
> > > > root soft nofile 65536  
> > > > root hard nofile 65536  
> > > > root - memlock unlimited
> > > > 
> > > > \*ES settings \*  
> > > > config]# grep -v "^#" elasticsearch.yml | grep -v "^$"  
> > > > bootstrap.mlockall: true
> > > > 
> > > > _echo $ES\_HEAP\_SIZE_  
> > > > 18432m
> > > > 
> > > > ---DUMP----
> > > > 
> > > > # bin/elasticsearch
> > > > 
> > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node]  
> > > > [Sabretooth] version[1.1.1], pid[19309], build[f1585f0/2014-04-16T14:  
> > > > 27:12Z]  
> > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node]  
> > > > [Sabretooth] initializing ...  
> > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,669][INFO][plugins]  
> > > > [Sabretooth] loaded , sites   
> > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node]  
> > > > [Sabretooth] initialized  
> > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node]  
> > > > [Sabretooth] starting ...  
> > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,531][INFO][transport]  
> > > > [Sabretooth] bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9300]}, publish\_address  
> > > > {inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]}  
> > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,553][INFO][cluster.service]  
> > > > [Sabretooth] new\_master [Sabretooth][eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw][ip-10-  
> > > > 109-136-59][inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]], reason: zen-disco-join  
> > > > (elected\_as\_master)  
> > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,579][INFO][discovery]  
> > > > [Sabretooth] elasticsearch/eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw  
> > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,790][INFO][http]  
> > > > [Sabretooth] bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9200]}, publish\_address  
> > > > {inet[/10.109.136.59:9200]}  
> > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:19,976][INFO][gateway]  
> > > > [Sabretooth] recovered [278] indices into cluster\_state  
> > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:19,984][INFO][node]  
> > > > [Sabretooth] started  
> > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to protect stack guard pages  
> > > > failed.  
> > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to deallocate stack guard  
> > > > pages failed.  
> > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: INFO: os::commit\_memory(0x00000007f7c70000,  
> > > > 196608, 0) failed; error='Cannot allocate memory' (errno=12)
> > > > 
> > > > # 
> > > > 
> > > > # There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment to
> > > > 
> > > > continue.
> > > > 
> > > > # Native memory allocation (malloc) failed to allocate 196608 bytes for
> > > > 
> > > > committing reserved memory.
> > > > 
> > > > # An error report file with more information is saved as:
> > > > 
> > > > # /tmp/jvm-19309/hs\_error.log
> > > > 
> > > > * * *
> > > > 
> > > > \*user untergeek on #logstash told me that I have reached a max number  
> > > > of indices on a single node. Here are my questions: \*
> > > > 
> > > > 1. Can I move half of my indexes to a new node ? If yes, how to do  
> > > > that without compromising indexes
> > > > 2. Logstash makes 1 index per day and I want to have 2 years of  
> > > > data indexable ; Can I combine multiple indexes into one ? Like one month  
> > > > per month : this will mean I will not have more than 24 indexes.
> > > > 3. How many nodes are ideal for 24 moths of data ~1.5G a day
> > > > 
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**Post date:** [May 5, 2014, 8:25pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/jdk-fails-with-out-of-memory-error-es-critical-index-counts/17335/7 "2014-05-05T20:25:40Z")

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Get node2 running with rock. Then issue a disable\_allocation and then bring  
up node1.  
curl -XPUT localhost:9200/\_cluster/settings -d  
'{"transient":{"cluster.routing.allocation.disable\_allocation":true}}'

From there, adjust the replica settings on the indexes down to 0 so they  
dont copy. Once thats set, change disable\_allocation to false.

On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Nish [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com) wrote:

> _.."- Fire up both nodes, make sure they both have the same cluster name"_\<= This is exactly what I wrote in my second message is where Elasticsearch  
> is messing up. When I move the index to a new node and delete that index  
> from master and then start master node and other data node, it (master)  
> throws a message:  
> "auto importing dangled indices"  
> This means master is now copying the "deleted" index that exists only on  
> other node to itself !
> 
> Basically this is what happens:
> 
> 1. Node1 Master: rock,paper,scissors
> 2. I move rock from Node 1 to Node 2 (I verify by starting ONLY node1  
> and I can see that I am missing data that was originally in "rock" index,  
> as expected, all good)
> 3. SO node1 now has paper,scissors
> 4. I start Node2 with ONLY "rock" index (verify independently, it  
> works)
> 5. Then I start node 1 (master) and node 2(data)
> 6. Node1 sees says "hey I don't have rock, but node2 has it, let me  
> copy it to myself"
> 
> On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:44:17 PM UTC-4, Nate Fox wrote:
> 
> > You might turn off the bootstrap.mlockall flag just for now - it'll make  
> > ES swap a ton, but your error message looks like an OS level issue. Make  
> > sure you have lots of swap available and grab some coffee.
> > 
> > What I'd also try if turning off bootstrap.mlockall doesnt work:
> > 
> > - Tarball the entire data directory and save the tarball somewhere  
> > (unless you dont care about the data)
> > - Set 31Gb for your ES HEAP. There's plenty of docs out there that say  
> > not to go over 32Gb of ram cause it'll cause Java to go into 64bit mode.
> > - Copy the entire data dir to node2
> > - Go into the data dir on node1 and delete half of the indexes
> > - Go into the data dir on node2 and delete the _other_ half of the indexes
> > - Fire up both nodes, make sure they both have the same cluster name
> > 
> > I have no idea if this'll work, I'm by no means an ES expert. 🙂
> > 
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Nish [elect...@gmail.com](mailto:elect...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > 
> > > Currently I have 279 indexes on a single node and elasticsearch starts  
> > > for few minutes and dies ; I only have 60G RAM on disk and as far as I know  
> > > 60% is the max that one should allocate to elasticsearch ; I tried  
> > > allocating 38G and it lasted for few more minutes and it died.
> > > 
> > > _(I think there's some state files that tell ES/Lucene which indexes are  
> > > on disk)_ =\> Where is this ? How do I fix it so that it doesn't move  
> > > all indexes to all nodes ? I want to split the ~280 indexes into two nodes  
> > > of 140each. So far I am not able to achieve this as the master keeps moving  
> > > nodes to itself !
> > > 
> > > On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:25:05 PM UTC-4, Nate Fox wrote:
> > > 
> > > > How many indexes do you have? It almost looks like the system itself  
> > > > cant allocate the ram needed?  
> > > > You might try jacking up the nofile to something like 999999 as well?  
> > > > I'd definitely go with 31g heapsize.
> > > > 
> > > > As for moving indexes, you might be able to copy the entire data store,  
> > > > then remove some (I think there's some state files that tell ES/Lucene  
> > > > which indexes are on disk), so it might recover if its missing some and  
> > > > sees the others on another node?
> > > > 
> > > > As for your other questions, it depends on usage as to how many nodes -  
> > > > especially search activity while indexing. We have 230 indexes (1740  
> > > > shards) on 8 data nodes (5.7Tb / 6.1B docs). So it can definitely handle a  
> > > > lot more than what you're throwing at it. We dont search often nor do we  
> > > > load a ton of data at once.
> > > > 
> > > > On Sunday, May 4, 2014 7:13:09 AM UTC-7, Nish wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > elasticsearch is set as a single node instance on a 60G RAM and  
> > > > > 32\*2.6GHz machine. I am actively indexing historic data with logstash. It  
> > > > > worked well with ~300 million documents (search and indexing were doing ok)  
> > > > > , but all of a sudden es fails to starts and keep itself up. It starts for  
> > > > > few minutes and I can query but fails with out of memory error. I monitor  
> > > > > the memory and atleast 12G of memory is available when it fails. I had set  
> > > > > the es\_heap\_size to 31G and then reduced it to 28, 24 and 18 and the same  
> > > > > error every time (see dump below)
> > > > > 
> > > > > \*My security limits are as under (this is a test/POC server thus  
> > > > > "root" user) \*
> > > > > 
> > > > > root soft nofile 65536  
> > > > > root hard nofile 65536  
> > > > > root - memlock unlimited
> > > > > 
> > > > > \*ES settings \*  
> > > > > config]# grep -v "^#" elasticsearch.yml | grep -v "^$"  
> > > > > bootstrap.mlockall: true
> > > > > 
> > > > > _echo $ES\_HEAP\_SIZE_  
> > > > > 18432m
> > > > > 
> > > > > ---DUMP----
> > > > > 
> > > > > # bin/elasticsearch
> > > > > 
> > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node]  
> > > > > [Sabretooth] version[1.1.1], pid[19309], build[f1585f0/2014-04-16T14:  
> > > > > 27:12Z]  
> > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node]  
> > > > > [Sabretooth] initializing ...  
> > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,669][INFO][plugins]  
> > > > > [Sabretooth] loaded , sites   
> > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node]  
> > > > > [Sabretooth] initialized  
> > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node]  
> > > > > [Sabretooth] starting ...  
> > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,531][INFO][transport]  
> > > > > [Sabretooth] bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9300]}, publish\_address  
> > > > > {inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]}  
> > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,553][INFO][cluster.service]  
> > > > > [Sabretooth] new\_master [Sabretooth][eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw][ip-10-  
> > > > > 109-136-59][inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]], reason: zen-disco-join  
> > > > > (elected\_as\_master)  
> > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,579][INFO][discovery]  
> > > > > [Sabretooth] elasticsearch/eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw  
> > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,790][INFO][http]  
> > > > > [Sabretooth] bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9200]}, publish\_address  
> > > > > {inet[/10.109.136.59:9200]}  
> > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:19,976][INFO][gateway]  
> > > > > [Sabretooth] recovered [278] indices into cluster\_state  
> > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:19,984][INFO][node]  
> > > > > [Sabretooth] started  
> > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to protect stack guard pages  
> > > > > failed.  
> > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to deallocate stack guard  
> > > > > pages failed.  
> > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: INFO: os::commit\_memory(0x00000007f7c70000,  
> > > > > 196608, 0) failed; error='Cannot allocate memory' (errno=12)
> > > > > 
> > > > > # 
> > > > > 
> > > > > # There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment to
> > > > > 
> > > > > continue.
> > > > > 
> > > > > # Native memory allocation (malloc) failed to allocate 196608 bytes
> > > > > 
> > > > > for committing reserved memory.
> > > > > 
> > > > > # An error report file with more information is saved as:
> > > > > 
> > > > > # /tmp/jvm-19309/hs\_error.log
> > > > > 
> > > > > * * *
> > > > > 
> > > > > \*user untergeek on #logstash told me that I have reached a max number  
> > > > > of indices on a single node. Here are my questions: \*
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1. Can I move half of my indexes to a new node ? If yes, how to do  
> > > > > that without compromising indexes
> > > > > 2. Logstash makes 1 index per day and I want to have 2 years of  
> > > > > data indexable ; Can I combine multiple indexes into one ? Like one month  
> > > > > per month : this will mean I will not have more than 24 indexes.
> > > > > 3. How many nodes are ideal for 24 moths of data ~1.5G a day
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Thanks Nate, but this doesn't work. node2 is not the master. So starting it  
first didn't make sense, anyway I tried it and I couldn't execute anything  
on a nonmaster node (node2) unless master was started

I started node2 (non master) and ran this: curl -XPUT  
localhost:9200/\_cluster/settings -d  
'{"transient":{"cluster.routing.allocation.disable\_allocation":true}}'  
after 30s I got this:  
{"error":"MasterNotDiscoveredException[waited for [30s]]","status":503}

I started node1 and as bloody expected elasticsearch copied all the indexes  
☹ ..  
_"auto importing dangled indices"_

I cannot believe I am unable to get this fundamental elasticsearch feature  
working !

On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Nate Fox [thefox@gmail.com](mailto:thefox@gmail.com) wrote:

> Get node2 running with rock. Then issue a disable\_allocation and then  
> bring up node1.  
> curl -XPUT localhost:9200/\_cluster/settings -d  
> '{"transient":{"cluster.routing.allocation.disable\_allocation":true}}'
> 
> From there, adjust the replica settings on the indexes down to 0 so they  
> dont copy. Once thats set, change disable\_allocation to false.
> 
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Nish [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com) wrote:
> 
> > _.."- Fire up both nodes, make sure they both have the same cluster name"_\<= This is exactly what I wrote in my second message is where Elasticsearch  
> > is messing up. When I move the index to a new node and delete that index  
> > from master and then start master node and other data node, it (master)  
> > throws a message:  
> > "auto importing dangled indices"  
> > This means master is now copying the "deleted" index that exists only on  
> > other node to itself !
> > 
> > Basically this is what happens:
> > 
> > 1. Node1 Master: rock,paper,scissors
> > 2. I move rock from Node 1 to Node 2 (I verify by starting ONLY node1  
> > and I can see that I am missing data that was originally in "rock" index,  
> > as expected, all good)
> > 3. SO node1 now has paper,scissors
> > 4. I start Node2 with ONLY "rock" index (verify independently, it  
> > works)
> > 5. Then I start node 1 (master) and node 2(data)
> > 6. Node1 sees says "hey I don't have rock, but node2 has it, let me  
> > copy it to myself"
> > 
> > On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:44:17 PM UTC-4, Nate Fox wrote:
> > 
> > > You might turn off the bootstrap.mlockall flag just for now - it'll make  
> > > ES swap a ton, but your error message looks like an OS level issue. Make  
> > > sure you have lots of swap available and grab some coffee.
> > > 
> > > What I'd also try if turning off bootstrap.mlockall doesnt work:
> > > 
> > > - Tarball the entire data directory and save the tarball somewhere  
> > > (unless you dont care about the data)
> > > - Set 31Gb for your ES HEAP. There's plenty of docs out there that say  
> > > not to go over 32Gb of ram cause it'll cause Java to go into 64bit mode.
> > > - Copy the entire data dir to node2
> > > - Go into the data dir on node1 and delete half of the indexes
> > > - Go into the data dir on node2 and delete the _other_ half of the  
> > > indexes
> > > - Fire up both nodes, make sure they both have the same cluster name
> > > 
> > > I have no idea if this'll work, I'm by no means an ES expert. 🙂
> > > 
> > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Nish [elect...@gmail.com](mailto:elect...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Currently I have 279 indexes on a single node and elasticsearch  
> > > > starts for few minutes and dies ; I only have 60G RAM on disk and as far as  
> > > > I know 60% is the max that one should allocate to elasticsearch ; I tried  
> > > > allocating 38G and it lasted for few more minutes and it died.
> > > > 
> > > > _(I think there's some state files that tell ES/Lucene which indexes  
> > > > are on disk)_ =\> Where is this ? How do I fix it so that it doesn't  
> > > > move all indexes to all nodes ? I want to split the ~280 indexes into two  
> > > > nodes of 140each. So far I am not able to achieve this as the master keeps  
> > > > moving nodes to itself !
> > > > 
> > > > On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:25:05 PM UTC-4, Nate Fox wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > How many indexes do you have? It almost looks like the system itself  
> > > > > cant allocate the ram needed?  
> > > > > You might try jacking up the nofile to something like 999999 as well?  
> > > > > I'd definitely go with 31g heapsize.
> > > > > 
> > > > > As for moving indexes, you might be able to copy the entire data  
> > > > > store, then remove some (I think there's some state files that tell  
> > > > > ES/Lucene which indexes are on disk), so it might recover if its missing  
> > > > > some and sees the others on another node?
> > > > > 
> > > > > As for your other questions, it depends on usage as to how many nodes
> > > > > 
> > > > > - especially search activity while indexing. We have 230 indexes (1740  
> > > > > shards) on 8 data nodes (5.7Tb / 6.1B docs). So it can definitely handle a  
> > > > > lot more than what you're throwing at it. We dont search often nor do we  
> > > > > load a ton of data at once.
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Sunday, May 4, 2014 7:13:09 AM UTC-7, Nish wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > elasticsearch is set as a single node instance on a 60G RAM and  
> > > > > > 32\*2.6GHz machine. I am actively indexing historic data with logstash. It  
> > > > > > worked well with ~300 million documents (search and indexing were doing ok)  
> > > > > > , but all of a sudden es fails to starts and keep itself up. It starts for  
> > > > > > few minutes and I can query but fails with out of memory error. I monitor  
> > > > > > the memory and atleast 12G of memory is available when it fails. I had set  
> > > > > > the es\_heap\_size to 31G and then reduced it to 28, 24 and 18 and the same  
> > > > > > error every time (see dump below)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > \*My security limits are as under (this is a test/POC server thus  
> > > > > > "root" user) \*
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > root soft nofile 65536  
> > > > > > root hard nofile 65536  
> > > > > > root - memlock unlimited
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > \*ES settings \*  
> > > > > > config]# grep -v "^#" elasticsearch.yml | grep -v "^$"  
> > > > > > bootstrap.mlockall: true
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > _echo $ES\_HEAP\_SIZE_  
> > > > > > 18432m
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ---DUMP----
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > # bin/elasticsearch
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > [Sabretooth] version[1.1.1], pid[19309], build[f1585f0/2014-04-16T14:  
> > > > > > 27:12Z]  
> > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > [Sabretooth] initializing ...  
> > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,669][INFO][plugins]  
> > > > > > [Sabretooth] loaded , sites   
> > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > [Sabretooth] initialized  
> > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > [Sabretooth] starting ...  
> > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,531][INFO][transport]  
> > > > > > [Sabretooth] bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9300]}, publish\_address  
> > > > > > {inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]}  
> > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,553][INFO][cluster.service]  
> > > > > > [Sabretooth] new\_master [Sabretooth][eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw][ip-10-  
> > > > > > 109-136-59][inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]], reason: zen-disco-join  
> > > > > > (elected\_as\_master)  
> > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,579][INFO][discovery]  
> > > > > > [Sabretooth] elasticsearch/eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw  
> > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,790][INFO][http]  
> > > > > > [Sabretooth] bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9200]}, publish\_address  
> > > > > > {inet[/10.109.136.59:9200]}  
> > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:19,976][INFO][gateway]  
> > > > > > [Sabretooth] recovered [278] indices into cluster\_state  
> > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:19,984][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > [Sabretooth] started  
> > > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to protect stack guard  
> > > > > > pages failed.  
> > > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to deallocate stack guard  
> > > > > > pages failed.  
> > > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: INFO: os::commit\_memory(  
> > > > > > 0x00000007f7c70000, 196608, 0) failed; error='Cannot allocate  
> > > > > > memory' (errno=12)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > # 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > # There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment to
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > continue.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > # Native memory allocation (malloc) failed to allocate 196608 bytes
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > for committing reserved memory.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > # An error report file with more information is saved as:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > # /tmp/jvm-19309/hs\_error.log
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > * * *
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > \*user untergeek on #logstash told me that I have reached a max number  
> > > > > > of indices on a single node. Here are my questions: \*
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 1. Can I move half of my indexes to a new node ? If yes, how to  
> > > > > > do that without compromising indexes
> > > > > > 2. Logstash makes 1 index per day and I want to have 2 years of  
> > > > > > data indexable ; Can I combine multiple indexes into one ? Like one month  
> > > > > > per month : this will mean I will not have more than 24 indexes.
> > > > > > 3. How many nodes are ideal for 24 moths of data ~1.5G a day
> > > > > > 
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Moving data on the OS level without making ES aware can cause difficulties  
as you are seeing.

A few suggestions on how to resolve this and improve things in general;

1. Set your heap size to 31GB.
2. Use Oracle's java, not OpenJDK.
3. Set bootstrap.mlockall to true, you don't want to swap, ever.

Given the large number of indexes you have on node1, and to get to a point  
where you can move some of these to a new node and stop the root problem,  
it's going to be worth closing some of the older indexes. So try these  
steps;

1. Stop node2.
2. Delete any data from the second node, to prevent things being auto  
imported again.
3. Start node1, or restart it if it's running.
4. Close all your indexes older than a month -  
[Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/indices-open-close.html).  
You can use wildcards in index names to make the update easier. What this  
will do is tell ES to not load the index metadata into memory, which will  
help with your OOM issue.
5. Start node2 and let it join the cluster.
6. Make sure the cluster is in a green state. If you're not already, use  
something like ElasticHQ, kopf or Marvel to monitor things.
7. Let the cluster rebalance the current open indexes.
8. Once that is ok and things are stable, reopen your closed indexes a  
month at a time, and let them rebalance.

That should get you back up and running. Once you're there we can go back  
to your original post 🙂

Regards,  
Mark Walkom

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On 6 May 2014 11:15, Nishchay Shah [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com) wrote:

> Thanks Nate, but this doesn't work. node2 is not the master. So starting  
> it first didn't make sense, anyway I tried it and I couldn't execute  
> anything on a nonmaster node (node2) unless master was started
> 
> I started node2 (non master) and ran this: curl -XPUT  
> localhost:9200/\_cluster/settings -d  
> '{"transient":{"cluster.routing.allocation.disable\_allocation":true}}'  
> after 30s I got this:  
> {"error":"MasterNotDiscoveredException[waited for [30s]]","status":503}
> 
> I started node1 and as bloody expected elasticsearch copied all the  
> indexes ☹ ..  
> _"auto importing dangled indices"_
> 
> I cannot believe I am unable to get this fundamental elasticsearch feature  
> working !
> 
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Nate Fox [thefox@gmail.com](mailto:thefox@gmail.com) wrote:
> 
> > Get node2 running with rock. Then issue a disable\_allocation and then  
> > bring up node1.  
> > curl -XPUT localhost:9200/\_cluster/settings -d  
> > '{"transient":{"cluster.routing.allocation.disable\_allocation":true}}'
> > 
> > From there, adjust the replica settings on the indexes down to 0 so they  
> > dont copy. Once thats set, change disable\_allocation to false.
> > 
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Nish [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com) wrote:
> > 
> > > _.."- Fire up both nodes, make sure they both have the same cluster  
> > > name"_ \<= This is exactly what I wrote in my second message is where  
> > > Elasticsearch is messing up. When I move the index to a new node and delete  
> > > that index from master and then start master node and other data node, it  
> > > (master) throws a message:  
> > > "auto importing dangled indices"  
> > > This means master is now copying the "deleted" index that exists only on  
> > > other node to itself !
> > > 
> > > Basically this is what happens:
> > > 
> > > 1. Node1 Master: rock,paper,scissors
> > > 2. I move rock from Node 1 to Node 2 (I verify by starting ONLY  
> > > node1 and I can see that I am missing data that was originally in "rock"  
> > > index, as expected, all good)
> > > 3. SO node1 now has paper,scissors
> > > 4. I start Node2 with ONLY "rock" index (verify independently, it  
> > > works)
> > > 5. Then I start node 1 (master) and node 2(data)
> > > 6. Node1 sees says "hey I don't have rock, but node2 has it, let me  
> > > copy it to myself"
> > > 
> > > On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:44:17 PM UTC-4, Nate Fox wrote:
> > > 
> > > > You might turn off the bootstrap.mlockall flag just for now - it'll  
> > > > make ES swap a ton, but your error message looks like an OS level issue.  
> > > > Make sure you have lots of swap available and grab some coffee.
> > > > 
> > > > What I'd also try if turning off bootstrap.mlockall doesnt work:
> > > > 
> > > > - Tarball the entire data directory and save the tarball somewhere  
> > > > (unless you dont care about the data)
> > > > - Set 31Gb for your ES HEAP. There's plenty of docs out there that say  
> > > > not to go over 32Gb of ram cause it'll cause Java to go into 64bit mode.
> > > > - Copy the entire data dir to node2
> > > > - Go into the data dir on node1 and delete half of the indexes
> > > > - Go into the data dir on node2 and delete the _other_ half of the  
> > > > indexes
> > > > - Fire up both nodes, make sure they both have the same cluster name
> > > > 
> > > > I have no idea if this'll work, I'm by no means an ES expert. 🙂
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Nish [elect...@gmail.com](mailto:elect...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Currently I have 279 indexes on a single node and elasticsearch  
> > > > > starts for few minutes and dies ; I only have 60G RAM on disk and as far as  
> > > > > I know 60% is the max that one should allocate to elasticsearch ; I tried  
> > > > > allocating 38G and it lasted for few more minutes and it died.
> > > > > 
> > > > > _(I think there's some state files that tell ES/Lucene which indexes  
> > > > > are on disk)_ =\> Where is this ? How do I fix it so that it doesn't  
> > > > > move all indexes to all nodes ? I want to split the ~280 indexes into two  
> > > > > nodes of 140each. So far I am not able to achieve this as the master keeps  
> > > > > moving nodes to itself !
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:25:05 PM UTC-4, Nate Fox wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > How many indexes do you have? It almost looks like the system itself  
> > > > > > cant allocate the ram needed?  
> > > > > > You might try jacking up the nofile to something like 999999 as well?  
> > > > > > I'd definitely go with 31g heapsize.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > As for moving indexes, you might be able to copy the entire data  
> > > > > > store, then remove some (I think there's some state files that tell  
> > > > > > ES/Lucene which indexes are on disk), so it might recover if its missing  
> > > > > > some and sees the others on another node?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > As for your other questions, it depends on usage as to how many nodes
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > - especially search activity while indexing. We have 230 indexes (1740  
> > > > > > shards) on 8 data nodes (5.7Tb / 6.1B docs). So it can definitely handle a  
> > > > > > lot more than what you're throwing at it. We dont search often nor do we  
> > > > > > load a ton of data at once.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Sunday, May 4, 2014 7:13:09 AM UTC-7, Nish wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > elasticsearch is set as a single node instance on a 60G RAM and  
> > > > > > > 32\*2.6GHz machine. I am actively indexing historic data with logstash. It  
> > > > > > > worked well with ~300 million documents (search and indexing were doing ok)  
> > > > > > > , but all of a sudden es fails to starts and keep itself up. It starts for  
> > > > > > > few minutes and I can query but fails with out of memory error. I monitor  
> > > > > > > the memory and atleast 12G of memory is available when it fails. I had set  
> > > > > > > the es\_heap\_size to 31G and then reduced it to 28, 24 and 18 and the same  
> > > > > > > error every time (see dump below)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > \*My security limits are as under (this is a test/POC server thus  
> > > > > > > "root" user) \*
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > root soft nofile 65536  
> > > > > > > root hard nofile 65536  
> > > > > > > root - memlock unlimited
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > \*ES settings \*  
> > > > > > > config]# grep -v "^#" elasticsearch.yml | grep -v "^$"  
> > > > > > > bootstrap.mlockall: true
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > _echo $ES\_HEAP\_SIZE_  
> > > > > > > 18432m
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ---DUMP----
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > # bin/elasticsearch
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > [Sabretooth] version[1.1.1], pid[19309], build[f1585f0/2014-04-16T14:  
> > > > > > > 27:12Z]  
> > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > [Sabretooth] initializing ...  
> > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,669][INFO][plugins]  
> > > > > > > [Sabretooth] loaded , sites   
> > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > [Sabretooth] initialized  
> > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > [Sabretooth] starting ...  
> > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,531][INFO][transport]  
> > > > > > > [Sabretooth] bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9300]}, publish\_address  
> > > > > > > {inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]}  
> > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,553][INFO][cluster.service]  
> > > > > > > [Sabretooth] new\_master [Sabretooth][eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw][ip-10-  
> > > > > > > 109-136-59][inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]], reason: zen-disco-join  
> > > > > > > (elected\_as\_master)  
> > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,579][INFO][discovery]  
> > > > > > > [Sabretooth] elasticsearch/eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw  
> > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,790][INFO][http]  
> > > > > > > [Sabretooth] bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9200]}, publish\_address  
> > > > > > > {inet[/10.109.136.59:9200]}  
> > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:19,976][INFO][gateway]  
> > > > > > > [Sabretooth] recovered [278] indices into cluster\_state  
> > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:19,984][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > [Sabretooth] started  
> > > > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to protect stack guard  
> > > > > > > pages failed.  
> > > > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to deallocate stack guard  
> > > > > > > pages failed.  
> > > > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: INFO: os::commit\_memory(  
> > > > > > > 0x00000007f7c70000, 196608, 0) failed; error='Cannot allocate  
> > > > > > > memory' (errno=12)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > # 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > # There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment to
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > continue.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > # Native memory allocation (malloc) failed to allocate 196608 bytes
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > for committing reserved memory.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > # An error report file with more information is saved as:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > # /tmp/jvm-19309/hs\_error.log
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > * * *
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > \*user untergeek on #logstash told me that I have reached a max  
> > > > > > > number of indices on a single node. Here are my questions: \*
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 1. Can I move half of my indexes to a new node ? If yes, how to  
> > > > > > > do that without compromising indexes
> > > > > > > 2. Logstash makes 1 index per day and I want to have 2 years of  
> > > > > > > data indexable ; Can I combine multiple indexes into one ? Like one month  
> > > > > > > per month : this will mean I will not have more than 24 indexes.
> > > > > > > 3. How many nodes are ideal for 24 moths of data ~1.5G a day
> > > > > > > 
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Hey Mark,  
Thanks for the response. I have currently created two new medium test  
instances (1 master 1 data only) because I didn't want to mess with the  
main dataset. In my test setup, I have about 600MB of data ; 7 indexes

After looking around a lot I saw that the directory organization is  
/elasticsearch/es/elasticsearch-1.1.1/data/elasticsearchtest/nodes// and the master node has only 1 directory

(master)

# ls /elasticsearch/es/elasticsearch-1.1.1/data/elasticsearchtest/nodes

0

So on node2 I created a "1" directory and moved 1 index from master to data  
; So master now has six indexes in 0 and data has one in 1.  
When I started elasticsearch after that I got to a point where the master  
is not NOT copying the data back to itself.. but now node2 is copying  
master's data and making a "0" directory ; Also, I am unable to query the  
node2's data !

On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)wrote:

> Moving data on the OS level without making ES aware can cause difficulties  
> as you are seeing.
> 
> A few suggestions on how to resolve this and improve things in general;
> 
> 1. Set your heap size to 31GB.
> 2. Use Oracle's java, not OpenJDK.
> 3. Set bootstrap.mlockall to true, you don't want to swap, ever.
> 
> Given the large number of indexes you have on node1, and to get to a point  
> where you can move some of these to a new node and stop the root problem,  
> it's going to be worth closing some of the older indexes. So try these  
> steps;
> 
> 1. Stop node2.
> 2. Delete any data from the second node, to prevent things being auto  
> imported again.
> 3. Start node1, or restart it if it's running.
> 4. Close all your indexes older than a month -  
> [Elastic — The Search AI Company | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/indices-open-close.html).  
> You can use wildcards in index names to make the update easier. What this  
> will do is tell ES to not load the index metadata into memory, which will  
> help with your OOM issue.
> 5. Start node2 and let it join the cluster.
> 6. Make sure the cluster is in a green state. If you're not already,  
> use something like ElasticHQ, kopf or Marvel to monitor things.
> 7. Let the cluster rebalance the current open indexes.
> 8. Once that is ok and things are stable, reopen your closed indexes a  
> month at a time, and let them rebalance.
> 
> That should get you back up and running. Once you're there we can go back  
> to your original post 🙂
> 
> Regards,  
> Mark Walkom
> 
> Infrastructure Engineer  
> Campaign Monitor  
> email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
> web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)
> 
> On 6 May 2014 11:15, Nishchay Shah [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com) wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Nate, but this doesn't work. node2 is not the master. So starting  
> > it first didn't make sense, anyway I tried it and I couldn't execute  
> > anything on a nonmaster node (node2) unless master was started
> > 
> > I started node2 (non master) and ran this: curl -XPUT  
> > localhost:9200/\_cluster/settings -d  
> > '{"transient":{"cluster.routing.allocation.disable\_allocation":true}}'  
> > after 30s I got this:  
> > {"error":"MasterNotDiscoveredException[waited for [30s]]","status":503}
> > 
> > I started node1 and as bloody expected elasticsearch copied all the  
> > indexes ☹ ..  
> > _"auto importing dangled indices"_
> > 
> > I cannot believe I am unable to get this fundamental elasticsearch  
> > feature working !
> > 
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Nate Fox [thefox@gmail.com](mailto:thefox@gmail.com) wrote:
> > 
> > > Get node2 running with rock. Then issue a disable\_allocation and then  
> > > bring up node1.  
> > > curl -XPUT localhost:9200/\_cluster/settings -d  
> > > '{"transient":{"cluster.routing.allocation.disable\_allocation":true}}'
> > > 
> > > From there, adjust the replica settings on the indexes down to 0 so they  
> > > dont copy. Once thats set, change disable\_allocation to false.
> > > 
> > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Nish [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > 
> > > > _.."- Fire up both nodes, make sure they both have the same cluster  
> > > > name"_ \<= This is exactly what I wrote in my second message is where  
> > > > Elasticsearch is messing up. When I move the index to a new node and delete  
> > > > that index from master and then start master node and other data node, it  
> > > > (master) throws a message:  
> > > > "auto importing dangled indices"  
> > > > This means master is now copying the "deleted" index that exists only  
> > > > on other node to itself !
> > > > 
> > > > Basically this is what happens:
> > > > 
> > > > 1. Node1 Master: rock,paper,scissors
> > > > 2. I move rock from Node 1 to Node 2 (I verify by starting ONLY  
> > > > node1 and I can see that I am missing data that was originally in "rock"  
> > > > index, as expected, all good)
> > > > 3. SO node1 now has paper,scissors
> > > > 4. I start Node2 with ONLY "rock" index (verify independently, it  
> > > > works)
> > > > 5. Then I start node 1 (master) and node 2(data)
> > > > 6. Node1 sees says "hey I don't have rock, but node2 has it, let me  
> > > > copy it to myself"
> > > > 
> > > > On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:44:17 PM UTC-4, Nate Fox wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > You might turn off the bootstrap.mlockall flag just for now - it'll  
> > > > > make ES swap a ton, but your error message looks like an OS level issue.  
> > > > > Make sure you have lots of swap available and grab some coffee.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What I'd also try if turning off bootstrap.mlockall doesnt work:
> > > > > 
> > > > > - Tarball the entire data directory and save the tarball somewhere  
> > > > > (unless you dont care about the data)
> > > > > - Set 31Gb for your ES HEAP. There's plenty of docs out there that say  
> > > > > not to go over 32Gb of ram cause it'll cause Java to go into 64bit mode.
> > > > > - Copy the entire data dir to node2
> > > > > - Go into the data dir on node1 and delete half of the indexes
> > > > > - Go into the data dir on node2 and delete the _other_ half of the  
> > > > > indexes
> > > > > - Fire up both nodes, make sure they both have the same cluster name
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have no idea if this'll work, I'm by no means an ES expert. 🙂
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Nish [elect...@gmail.com](mailto:elect...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Currently I have 279 indexes on a single node and elasticsearch  
> > > > > > starts for few minutes and dies ; I only have 60G RAM on disk and as far as  
> > > > > > I know 60% is the max that one should allocate to elasticsearch ; I tried  
> > > > > > allocating 38G and it lasted for few more minutes and it died.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > _(I think there's some state files that tell ES/Lucene which indexes  
> > > > > > are on disk)_ =\> Where is this ? How do I fix it so that it doesn't  
> > > > > > move all indexes to all nodes ? I want to split the ~280 indexes into two  
> > > > > > nodes of 140each. So far I am not able to achieve this as the master keeps  
> > > > > > moving nodes to itself !
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:25:05 PM UTC-4, Nate Fox wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > How many indexes do you have? It almost looks like the system itself  
> > > > > > > cant allocate the ram needed?  
> > > > > > > You might try jacking up the nofile to something like 999999 as  
> > > > > > > well? I'd definitely go with 31g heapsize.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > As for moving indexes, you might be able to copy the entire data  
> > > > > > > store, then remove some (I think there's some state files that tell  
> > > > > > > ES/Lucene which indexes are on disk), so it might recover if its missing  
> > > > > > > some and sees the others on another node?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > As for your other questions, it depends on usage as to how many  
> > > > > > > nodes - especially search activity while indexing. We have 230 indexes  
> > > > > > > (1740 shards) on 8 data nodes (5.7Tb / 6.1B docs). So it can definitely  
> > > > > > > handle a lot more than what you're throwing at it. We dont search often nor  
> > > > > > > do we load a ton of data at once.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Sunday, May 4, 2014 7:13:09 AM UTC-7, Nish wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > elasticsearch is set as a single node instance on a 60G RAM and  
> > > > > > > > 32\*2.6GHz machine. I am actively indexing historic data with logstash. It  
> > > > > > > > worked well with ~300 million documents (search and indexing were doing ok)  
> > > > > > > > , but all of a sudden es fails to starts and keep itself up. It starts for  
> > > > > > > > few minutes and I can query but fails with out of memory error. I monitor  
> > > > > > > > the memory and atleast 12G of memory is available when it fails. I had set  
> > > > > > > > the es\_heap\_size to 31G and then reduced it to 28, 24 and 18 and the same  
> > > > > > > > error every time (see dump below)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > \*My security limits are as under (this is a test/POC server thus  
> > > > > > > > "root" user) \*
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > root soft nofile 65536  
> > > > > > > > root hard nofile 65536  
> > > > > > > > root - memlock unlimited
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > \*ES settings \*  
> > > > > > > > config]# grep -v "^#" elasticsearch.yml | grep -v "^$"  
> > > > > > > > bootstrap.mlockall: true
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > _echo $ES\_HEAP\_SIZE_  
> > > > > > > > 18432m
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > ---DUMP----
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > # bin/elasticsearch
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] version[1.1.1], pid[19309], build[f1585f0/2014-04-16T14:  
> > > > > > > > 27:12Z]  
> > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] initializing ...  
> > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,669][INFO][plugins]  
> > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] loaded , sites   
> > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] initialized  
> > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] starting ...  
> > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,531][INFO][transport]  
> > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9300]}, publish\_address  
> > > > > > > > {inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]}  
> > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,553][INFO][cluster.service]  
> > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] new\_master [Sabretooth][eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw][ip-10-  
> > > > > > > > 109-136-59][inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]], reason: zen-disco-join  
> > > > > > > > (elected\_as\_master)  
> > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,579][INFO][discovery]  
> > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] elasticsearch/eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw  
> > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,790][INFO][http]  
> > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9200]}, publish\_address  
> > > > > > > > {inet[/10.109.136.59:9200]}  
> > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:19,976][INFO][gateway]  
> > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] recovered [278] indices into cluster\_state  
> > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:19,984][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] started  
> > > > > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to protect stack guard  
> > > > > > > > pages failed.  
> > > > > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to deallocate stack guard  
> > > > > > > > pages failed.  
> > > > > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: INFO: os::commit\_memory(  
> > > > > > > > 0x00000007f7c70000, 196608, 0) failed; error='Cannot allocate  
> > > > > > > > memory' (errno=12)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > # 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > # There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment to
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > continue.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > # Native memory allocation (malloc) failed to allocate 196608 bytes
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > for committing reserved memory.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > # An error report file with more information is saved as:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > # /tmp/jvm-19309/hs\_error.log
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > * * *
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > \*user untergeek on #logstash told me that I have reached a max  
> > > > > > > > number of indices on a single node. Here are my questions: \*
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 1. Can I move half of my indexes to a new node ? If yes, how to  
> > > > > > > > do that without compromising indexes
> > > > > > > > 2. Logstash makes 1 index per day and I want to have 2 years of  
> > > > > > > > data indexable ; Can I combine multiple indexes into one ? Like one month  
> > > > > > > > per month : this will mean I will not have more than 24 indexes.
> > > > > > > > 3. How many nodes are ideal for 24 moths of data ~1.5G a day
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Don't copy indexes on the OS level!

Is your new cluster balancing the shards?

Regards,  
Mark Walkom

Infrastructure Engineer  
Campaign Monitor  
email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)

On 6 May 2014 12:46, Nishchay Shah [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com) wrote:

> Hey Mark,  
> Thanks for the response. I have currently created two new medium test  
> instances (1 master 1 data only) because I didn't want to mess with the  
> main dataset. In my test setup, I have about 600MB of data ; 7 indexes
> 
> After looking around a lot I saw that the directory organization is  
> /elasticsearch/es/elasticsearch-1.1.1/data/elasticsearchtest/nodes// and the master node has only 1 directory
> 
> (master)
> 
> # ls /elasticsearch/es/elasticsearch-1.1.1/data/elasticsearchtest/nodes
> 
> 0
> 
> So on node2 I created a "1" directory and moved 1 index from master to  
> data ; So master now has six indexes in 0 and data has one in 1.  
> When I started elasticsearch after that I got to a point where the master  
> is not NOT copying the data back to itself.. but now node2 is copying  
> master's data and making a "0" directory ; Also, I am unable to query the  
> node2's data !
> 
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)wrote:
> 
> > Moving data on the OS level without making ES aware can cause  
> > difficulties as you are seeing.
> > 
> > A few suggestions on how to resolve this and improve things in general;
> > 
> > 1. Set your heap size to 31GB.
> > 2. Use Oracle's java, not OpenJDK.
> > 3. Set bootstrap.mlockall to true, you don't want to swap, ever.
> > 
> > Given the large number of indexes you have on node1, and to get to a  
> > point where you can move some of these to a new node and stop the root  
> > problem, it's going to be worth closing some of the older indexes. So try  
> > these steps;
> > 
> > 1. Stop node2.
> > 2. Delete any data from the second node, to prevent things being auto  
> > imported again.
> > 3. Start node1, or restart it if it's running.
> > 4. Close all your indexes older than a month -  
> > [Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/indices-open-close.html).  
> > You can use wildcards in index names to make the update easier. What this  
> > will do is tell ES to not load the index metadata into memory, which will  
> > help with your OOM issue.
> > 5. Start node2 and let it join the cluster.
> > 6. Make sure the cluster is in a green state. If you're not already,  
> > use something like ElasticHQ, kopf or Marvel to monitor things.
> > 7. Let the cluster rebalance the current open indexes.
> > 8. Once that is ok and things are stable, reopen your closed indexes  
> > a month at a time, and let them rebalance.
> > 
> > That should get you back up and running. Once you're there we can go back  
> > to your original post 🙂
> > 
> > Regards,  
> > Mark Walkom
> > 
> > Infrastructure Engineer  
> > Campaign Monitor  
> > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
> > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)
> > 
> > On 6 May 2014 11:15, Nishchay Shah [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com) wrote:
> > 
> > > Thanks Nate, but this doesn't work. node2 is not the master. So starting  
> > > it first didn't make sense, anyway I tried it and I couldn't execute  
> > > anything on a nonmaster node (node2) unless master was started
> > > 
> > > I started node2 (non master) and ran this: curl -XPUT  
> > > localhost:9200/\_cluster/settings -d  
> > > '{"transient":{"cluster.routing.allocation.disable\_allocation":true}}'  
> > > after 30s I got this:  
> > > {"error":"MasterNotDiscoveredException[waited for [30s]]","status":503}
> > > 
> > > I started node1 and as bloody expected elasticsearch copied all the  
> > > indexes ☹ ..  
> > > _"auto importing dangled indices"_
> > > 
> > > I cannot believe I am unable to get this fundamental elasticsearch  
> > > feature working !
> > > 
> > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Nate Fox [thefox@gmail.com](mailto:thefox@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Get node2 running with rock. Then issue a disable\_allocation and then  
> > > > bring up node1.  
> > > > curl -XPUT localhost:9200/\_cluster/settings -d  
> > > > '{"transient":{"cluster.routing.allocation.disable\_allocation":true}}'
> > > > 
> > > > From there, adjust the replica settings on the indexes down to 0 so  
> > > > they dont copy. Once thats set, change disable\_allocation to false.
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Nish [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > _.."- Fire up both nodes, make sure they both have the same cluster  
> > > > > name"_ \<= This is exactly what I wrote in my second message is where  
> > > > > Elasticsearch is messing up. When I move the index to a new node and delete  
> > > > > that index from master and then start master node and other data node, it  
> > > > > (master) throws a message:  
> > > > > "auto importing dangled indices"  
> > > > > This means master is now copying the "deleted" index that exists only  
> > > > > on other node to itself !
> > > > > 
> > > > > Basically this is what happens:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1. Node1 Master: rock,paper,scissors
> > > > > 2. I move rock from Node 1 to Node 2 (I verify by starting ONLY  
> > > > > node1 and I can see that I am missing data that was originally in "rock"  
> > > > > index, as expected, all good)
> > > > > 3. SO node1 now has paper,scissors
> > > > > 4. I start Node2 with ONLY "rock" index (verify independently, it  
> > > > > works)
> > > > > 5. Then I start node 1 (master) and node 2(data)
> > > > > 6. Node1 sees says "hey I don't have rock, but node2 has it, let  
> > > > > me copy it to myself"
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:44:17 PM UTC-4, Nate Fox wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > You might turn off the bootstrap.mlockall flag just for now - it'll  
> > > > > > make ES swap a ton, but your error message looks like an OS level issue.  
> > > > > > Make sure you have lots of swap available and grab some coffee.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > What I'd also try if turning off bootstrap.mlockall doesnt work:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > - Tarball the entire data directory and save the tarball somewhere  
> > > > > > (unless you dont care about the data)
> > > > > > - Set 31Gb for your ES HEAP. There's plenty of docs out there that  
> > > > > > say not to go over 32Gb of ram cause it'll cause Java to go into 64bit mode.
> > > > > > - Copy the entire data dir to node2
> > > > > > - Go into the data dir on node1 and delete half of the indexes
> > > > > > - Go into the data dir on node2 and delete the _other_ half of the  
> > > > > > indexes
> > > > > > - Fire up both nodes, make sure they both have the same cluster name
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I have no idea if this'll work, I'm by no means an ES expert. 🙂
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Nish [elect...@gmail.com](mailto:elect...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Currently I have 279 indexes on a single node and elasticsearch  
> > > > > > > starts for few minutes and dies ; I only have 60G RAM on disk and as far as  
> > > > > > > I know 60% is the max that one should allocate to elasticsearch ; I tried  
> > > > > > > allocating 38G and it lasted for few more minutes and it died.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > _(I think there's some state files that tell ES/Lucene which indexes  
> > > > > > > are on disk)_ =\> Where is this ? How do I fix it so that it doesn't  
> > > > > > > move all indexes to all nodes ? I want to split the ~280 indexes into two  
> > > > > > > nodes of 140each. So far I am not able to achieve this as the master keeps  
> > > > > > > moving nodes to itself !
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:25:05 PM UTC-4, Nate Fox wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > How many indexes do you have? It almost looks like the system  
> > > > > > > > itself cant allocate the ram needed?  
> > > > > > > > You might try jacking up the nofile to something like 999999 as  
> > > > > > > > well? I'd definitely go with 31g heapsize.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > As for moving indexes, you might be able to copy the entire data  
> > > > > > > > store, then remove some (I think there's some state files that tell  
> > > > > > > > ES/Lucene which indexes are on disk), so it might recover if its missing  
> > > > > > > > some and sees the others on another node?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > As for your other questions, it depends on usage as to how many  
> > > > > > > > nodes - especially search activity while indexing. We have 230 indexes  
> > > > > > > > (1740 shards) on 8 data nodes (5.7Tb / 6.1B docs). So it can definitely  
> > > > > > > > handle a lot more than what you're throwing at it. We dont search often nor  
> > > > > > > > do we load a ton of data at once.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Sunday, May 4, 2014 7:13:09 AM UTC-7, Nish wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > elasticsearch is set as a single node instance on a 60G RAM and  
> > > > > > > > > 32\*2.6GHz machine. I am actively indexing historic data with logstash. It  
> > > > > > > > > worked well with ~300 million documents (search and indexing were doing ok)  
> > > > > > > > > , but all of a sudden es fails to starts and keep itself up. It starts for  
> > > > > > > > > few minutes and I can query but fails with out of memory error. I monitor  
> > > > > > > > > the memory and atleast 12G of memory is available when it fails. I had set  
> > > > > > > > > the es\_heap\_size to 31G and then reduced it to 28, 24 and 18 and the same  
> > > > > > > > > error every time (see dump below)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > \*My security limits are as under (this is a test/POC server thus  
> > > > > > > > > "root" user) \*
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > root soft nofile 65536  
> > > > > > > > > root hard nofile 65536  
> > > > > > > > > root - memlock unlimited
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > \*ES settings \*  
> > > > > > > > > config]# grep -v "^#" elasticsearch.yml | grep -v "^$"  
> > > > > > > > > bootstrap.mlockall: true
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > _echo $ES\_HEAP\_SIZE_  
> > > > > > > > > 18432m
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > ---DUMP----
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > # bin/elasticsearch
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] version[1.1.1], pid[19309], build[f1585f0/2014-04-16T14:  
> > > > > > > > > 27:12Z]  
> > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] initializing ...  
> > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,669][INFO][plugins]  
> > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] loaded , sites   
> > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] initialized  
> > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] starting ...  
> > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,531][INFO][transport]  
> > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9300]}, publish\_address  
> > > > > > > > > {inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]}  
> > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,553][INFO][cluster.service]  
> > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] new\_master [Sabretooth][eocFkTYMQnSTUar94  
> > > > > > > > > A2vHw][ip-10-109-136-59][inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]], reason:  
> > > > > > > > > zen-disco-join (elected\_as\_master)  
> > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,579][INFO][discovery]  
> > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] elasticsearch/eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw  
> > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,790][INFO][http]  
> > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9200]}, publish\_address  
> > > > > > > > > {inet[/10.109.136.59:9200]}  
> > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:19,976][INFO][gateway]  
> > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] recovered [278] indices into cluster\_state  
> > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:19,984][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] started  
> > > > > > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to protect stack guard  
> > > > > > > > > pages failed.  
> > > > > > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to deallocate stack  
> > > > > > > > > guard pages failed.  
> > > > > > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: INFO: os::commit\_memory(  
> > > > > > > > > 0x00000007f7c70000, 196608, 0) failed; error='Cannot allocate  
> > > > > > > > > memory' (errno=12)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > # 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > # There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment to
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > continue.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > # Native memory allocation (malloc) failed to allocate 196608
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > bytes for committing reserved memory.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > # An error report file with more information is saved as:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > # /tmp/jvm-19309/hs\_error.log
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > * * *
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > \*user untergeek on #logstash told me that I have reached a max  
> > > > > > > > > number of indices on a single node. Here are my questions: \*
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 1. Can I move half of my indexes to a new node ? If yes, how  
> > > > > > > > > to do that without compromising indexes
> > > > > > > > > 2. Logstash makes 1 index per day and I want to have 2 years  
> > > > > > > > > of data indexable ; Can I combine multiple indexes into one ? Like one  
> > > > > > > > > month per month : this will mean I will not have more than 24 indexes.
> > > > > > > > > 3. How many nodes are ideal for 24 moths of data ~1.5G a day
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**Post date:** [May 6, 2014, 3:01am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/jdk-fails-with-out-of-memory-error-es-critical-index-counts/17335/12 "2014-05-06T03:01:14Z")

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Probably not.

I deleted all data from slave and restarted both servers and I see this:

\*Master: \*  
[root@ip-10-169-36-251 logstash-2013.12.22]# du -h --max-depth=1  
16M ./0  
16M ./1  
8.0K ./\_state  
15M ./4  
15M ./3  
15M ./2  
75M .

\*Data: \*

[root@ip-10-186-152-19 logstash-2013.12.22]# du -h --max-depth=1  
16M ./0  
16M ./1  
15M ./4  
15M ./3  
15M ./2  
75M .

On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)wrote:

> Don't copy indexes on the OS level!
> 
> Is your new cluster balancing the shards?
> 
> Regards,  
> Mark Walkom
> 
> Infrastructure Engineer  
> Campaign Monitor  
> email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
> web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)
> 
> On 6 May 2014 12:46, Nishchay Shah [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com) wrote:
> 
> > Hey Mark,  
> > Thanks for the response. I have currently created two new medium test  
> > instances (1 master 1 data only) because I didn't want to mess with the  
> > main dataset. In my test setup, I have about 600MB of data ; 7 indexes
> > 
> > After looking around a lot I saw that the directory organization is  
> > /elasticsearch/es/elasticsearch-1.1.1/data/elasticsearchtest/nodes// and the master node has only 1 directory
> > 
> > (master)
> > 
> > # ls /elasticsearch/es/elasticsearch-1.1.1/data/elasticsearchtest/nodes
> > 
> > 0
> > 
> > So on node2 I created a "1" directory and moved 1 index from master to  
> > data ; So master now has six indexes in 0 and data has one in 1.  
> > When I started elasticsearch after that I got to a point where the master  
> > is not NOT copying the data back to itself.. but now node2 is copying  
> > master's data and making a "0" directory ; Also, I am unable to query the  
> > node2's data !
> > 
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)wrote:
> > 
> > > Moving data on the OS level without making ES aware can cause  
> > > difficulties as you are seeing.
> > > 
> > > A few suggestions on how to resolve this and improve things in general;
> > > 
> > > 1. Set your heap size to 31GB.
> > > 2. Use Oracle's java, not OpenJDK.
> > > 3. Set bootstrap.mlockall to true, you don't want to swap, ever.
> > > 
> > > Given the large number of indexes you have on node1, and to get to a  
> > > point where you can move some of these to a new node and stop the root  
> > > problem, it's going to be worth closing some of the older indexes. So try  
> > > these steps;
> > > 
> > > 1. Stop node2.
> > > 2. Delete any data from the second node, to prevent things being  
> > > auto imported again.
> > > 3. Start node1, or restart it if it's running.
> > > 4. Close all your indexes older than a month -  
> > > [Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/indices-open-close.html).  
> > > You can use wildcards in index names to make the update easier. What this  
> > > will do is tell ES to not load the index metadata into memory, which will  
> > > help with your OOM issue.
> > > 5. Start node2 and let it join the cluster.
> > > 6. Make sure the cluster is in a green state. If you're not already,  
> > > use something like ElasticHQ, kopf or Marvel to monitor things.
> > > 7. Let the cluster rebalance the current open indexes.
> > > 8. Once that is ok and things are stable, reopen your closed indexes  
> > > a month at a time, and let them rebalance.
> > > 
> > > That should get you back up and running. Once you're there we can go  
> > > back to your original post 🙂
> > > 
> > > Regards,  
> > > Mark Walkom
> > > 
> > > Infrastructure Engineer  
> > > Campaign Monitor  
> > > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
> > > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)
> > > 
> > > On 6 May 2014 11:15, Nishchay Shah [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Thanks Nate, but this doesn't work. node2 is not the master. So  
> > > > starting it first didn't make sense, anyway I tried it and I couldn't  
> > > > execute anything on a nonmaster node (node2) unless master was started
> > > > 
> > > > I started node2 (non master) and ran this: curl -XPUT  
> > > > localhost:9200/\_cluster/settings -d  
> > > > '{"transient":{"cluster.routing.allocation.disable\_allocation":true}}'  
> > > > after 30s I got this:  
> > > > {"error":"MasterNotDiscoveredException[waited for [30s]]","status":503}
> > > > 
> > > > I started node1 and as bloody expected elasticsearch copied all the  
> > > > indexes ☹ ..  
> > > > _"auto importing dangled indices"_
> > > > 
> > > > I cannot believe I am unable to get this fundamental elasticsearch  
> > > > feature working !
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Nate Fox [thefox@gmail.com](mailto:thefox@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Get node2 running with rock. Then issue a disable\_allocation and then  
> > > > > bring up node1.  
> > > > > curl -XPUT localhost:9200/\_cluster/settings -d  
> > > > > '{"transient":{"cluster.routing.allocation.disable\_allocation":true}}'
> > > > > 
> > > > > From there, adjust the replica settings on the indexes down to 0 so  
> > > > > they dont copy. Once thats set, change disable\_allocation to false.
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Nish [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > _.."- Fire up both nodes, make sure they both have the same cluster  
> > > > > > name"_ \<= This is exactly what I wrote in my second message is where  
> > > > > > Elasticsearch is messing up. When I move the index to a new node and delete  
> > > > > > that index from master and then start master node and other data node, it  
> > > > > > (master) throws a message:  
> > > > > > "auto importing dangled indices"  
> > > > > > This means master is now copying the "deleted" index that exists only  
> > > > > > on other node to itself !
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Basically this is what happens:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 1. Node1 Master: rock,paper,scissors
> > > > > > 2. I move rock from Node 1 to Node 2 (I verify by starting ONLY  
> > > > > > node1 and I can see that I am missing data that was originally in "rock"  
> > > > > > index, as expected, all good)
> > > > > > 3. SO node1 now has paper,scissors
> > > > > > 4. I start Node2 with ONLY "rock" index (verify independently, it  
> > > > > > works)
> > > > > > 5. Then I start node 1 (master) and node 2(data)
> > > > > > 6. Node1 sees says "hey I don't have rock, but node2 has it, let  
> > > > > > me copy it to myself"
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:44:17 PM UTC-4, Nate Fox wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > You might turn off the bootstrap.mlockall flag just for now - it'll  
> > > > > > > make ES swap a ton, but your error message looks like an OS level issue.  
> > > > > > > Make sure you have lots of swap available and grab some coffee.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > What I'd also try if turning off bootstrap.mlockall doesnt work:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > - Tarball the entire data directory and save the tarball somewhere  
> > > > > > > (unless you dont care about the data)
> > > > > > > - Set 31Gb for your ES HEAP. There's plenty of docs out there that  
> > > > > > > say not to go over 32Gb of ram cause it'll cause Java to go into 64bit mode.
> > > > > > > - Copy the entire data dir to node2
> > > > > > > - Go into the data dir on node1 and delete half of the indexes
> > > > > > > - Go into the data dir on node2 and delete the _other_ half of the  
> > > > > > > indexes
> > > > > > > - Fire up both nodes, make sure they both have the same cluster name
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I have no idea if this'll work, I'm by no means an ES expert. 🙂
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Nish [elect...@gmail.com](mailto:elect...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Currently I have 279 indexes on a single node and elasticsearch  
> > > > > > > > starts for few minutes and dies ; I only have 60G RAM on disk and as far as  
> > > > > > > > I know 60% is the max that one should allocate to elasticsearch ; I tried  
> > > > > > > > allocating 38G and it lasted for few more minutes and it died.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > _(I think there's some state files that tell ES/Lucene which  
> > > > > > > > indexes are on disk)_ =\> Where is this ? How do I fix it so that  
> > > > > > > > it doesn't move all indexes to all nodes ? I want to split the ~280 indexes  
> > > > > > > > into two nodes of 140each. So far I am not able to achieve this as the  
> > > > > > > > master keeps moving nodes to itself !
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:25:05 PM UTC-4, Nate Fox wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > How many indexes do you have? It almost looks like the system  
> > > > > > > > > itself cant allocate the ram needed?  
> > > > > > > > > You might try jacking up the nofile to something like 999999 as  
> > > > > > > > > well? I'd definitely go with 31g heapsize.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > As for moving indexes, you might be able to copy the entire data  
> > > > > > > > > store, then remove some (I think there's some state files that tell  
> > > > > > > > > ES/Lucene which indexes are on disk), so it might recover if its missing  
> > > > > > > > > some and sees the others on another node?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > As for your other questions, it depends on usage as to how many  
> > > > > > > > > nodes - especially search activity while indexing. We have 230 indexes  
> > > > > > > > > (1740 shards) on 8 data nodes (5.7Tb / 6.1B docs). So it can definitely  
> > > > > > > > > handle a lot more than what you're throwing at it. We dont search often nor  
> > > > > > > > > do we load a ton of data at once.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Sunday, May 4, 2014 7:13:09 AM UTC-7, Nish wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > elasticsearch is set as a single node instance on a 60G RAM and  
> > > > > > > > > > 32\*2.6GHz machine. I am actively indexing historic data with logstash. It  
> > > > > > > > > > worked well with ~300 million documents (search and indexing were doing ok)  
> > > > > > > > > > , but all of a sudden es fails to starts and keep itself up. It starts for  
> > > > > > > > > > few minutes and I can query but fails with out of memory error. I monitor  
> > > > > > > > > > the memory and atleast 12G of memory is available when it fails. I had set  
> > > > > > > > > > the es\_heap\_size to 31G and then reduced it to 28, 24 and 18 and the same  
> > > > > > > > > > error every time (see dump below)
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > \*My security limits are as under (this is a test/POC server thus  
> > > > > > > > > > "root" user) \*
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > root soft nofile 65536  
> > > > > > > > > > root hard nofile 65536  
> > > > > > > > > > root - memlock unlimited
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > \*ES settings \*  
> > > > > > > > > > config]# grep -v "^#" elasticsearch.yml | grep -v "^$"  
> > > > > > > > > > bootstrap.mlockall: true
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > _echo $ES\_HEAP\_SIZE_  
> > > > > > > > > > 18432m
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > ---DUMP----
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > # bin/elasticsearch
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] version[1.1.1], pid[19309], build[f1585f0/2014-04-16T14:  
> > > > > > > > > > 27:12Z]  
> > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] initializing ...  
> > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,669][INFO][plugins]  
> > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] loaded , sites   
> > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] initialized  
> > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] starting ...  
> > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,531][INFO][transport]  
> > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9300]}, publish\_address  
> > > > > > > > > > {inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]}  
> > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,553][INFO][cluster.service]  
> > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] new\_master [Sabretooth][eocFkTYMQnSTUar94  
> > > > > > > > > > A2vHw][ip-10-109-136-59][inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]], reason:  
> > > > > > > > > > zen-disco-join (elected\_as\_master)  
> > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,579][INFO][discovery]  
> > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] elasticsearch/eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw  
> > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,790][INFO][http]  
> > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9200]}, publish\_address  
> > > > > > > > > > {inet[/10.109.136.59:9200]}  
> > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:19,976][INFO][gateway]  
> > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] recovered [278] indices into cluster\_state  
> > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:19,984][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] started  
> > > > > > > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to protect stack guard  
> > > > > > > > > > pages failed.  
> > > > > > > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to deallocate stack  
> > > > > > > > > > guard pages failed.  
> > > > > > > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: INFO: os::commit\_memory(  
> > > > > > > > > > 0x00000007f7c70000, 196608, 0) failed; error='Cannot allocate  
> > > > > > > > > > memory' (errno=12)
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > # 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > # There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > to continue.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > # Native memory allocation (malloc) failed to allocate 196608
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > bytes for committing reserved memory.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > # An error report file with more information is saved as:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > # /tmp/jvm-19309/hs\_error.log
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > * * *
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > \*user untergeek on #logstash told me that I have reached a max  
> > > > > > > > > > number of indices on a single node. Here are my questions: \*
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 1. Can I move half of my indexes to a new node ? If yes, how  
> > > > > > > > > > to do that without compromising indexes
> > > > > > > > > > 2. Logstash makes 1 index per day and I want to have 2 years  
> > > > > > > > > > of data indexable ; Can I combine multiple indexes into one ? Like one  
> > > > > > > > > > month per month : this will mean I will not have more than 24 indexes.
> > > > > > > > > > 3. How many nodes are ideal for 24 moths of data ~1.5G a day
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**Post date:** [May 6, 2014, 3:06am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/jdk-fails-with-out-of-memory-error-es-critical-index-counts/17335/13 "2014-05-06T03:06:19Z")

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FYI settings:  
_Master_:  
[root@ip-10-169-36-251 logstash-2013.12.05]# grep -vE "^$|^#"  
/xx/elasticsearch-1.1.1/config/elasticsearch.yml  
cluster.name: elasticsearchtest  
node.name: "node1"  
node.master: true  
node.data: true  
index.number\_of\_replicas: 0  
discovery.zen.ping.multicast.enabled: false  
discovery.zen.ping.unicast.hosts: ["10.169.36.251", "10.186.152.19"]  
_Non Master_  
[root@ip-10-186-152-19 logstash-2013.12.05]# grep -vE "^$|^#"  
/elasticsearch/es/elasticsearch-1.1.1/config/elasticsearch.yml  
cluster.name: elasticsearchtest  
node.name: "node2"  
node.master: false  
node.data: true  
index.number\_of\_replicas: 0  
discovery.zen.ping.multicast.enabled: false  
discovery.zen.ping.unicast.hosts: ["10.169.36.251","10.186.152.19"]

On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Nishchay Shah [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com)wrote:

> Probably not.
> 
> I deleted all data from slave and restarted both servers and I see this:
> 
> \*Master: \*  
> [root@ip-10-169-36-251 logstash-2013.12.22]# du -h --max-depth=1  
> 16M ./0  
> 16M ./1  
> 8.0K ./\_state  
> 15M ./4  
> 15M ./3  
> 15M ./2  
> 75M .
> 
> \*Data: \*
> 
> [root@ip-10-186-152-19 logstash-2013.12.22]# du -h --max-depth=1  
> 16M ./0  
> 16M ./1  
> 15M ./4  
> 15M ./3  
> 15M ./2  
> 75M .
> 
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)wrote:
> 
> > Don't copy indexes on the OS level!
> > 
> > Is your new cluster balancing the shards?
> > 
> > Regards,  
> > Mark Walkom
> > 
> > Infrastructure Engineer  
> > Campaign Monitor  
> > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
> > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)
> > 
> > On 6 May 2014 12:46, Nishchay Shah [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com) wrote:
> > 
> > > Hey Mark,  
> > > Thanks for the response. I have currently created two new medium test  
> > > instances (1 master 1 data only) because I didn't want to mess with the  
> > > main dataset. In my test setup, I have about 600MB of data ; 7 indexes
> > > 
> > > After looking around a lot I saw that the directory organization is  
> > > /elasticsearch/es/elasticsearch-1.1.1/data/elasticsearchtest/nodes// and the master node has only 1 directory
> > > 
> > > (master)
> > > 
> > > # ls /elasticsearch/es/elasticsearch-1.1.1/data/elasticsearchtest/nodes
> > > 
> > > 0
> > > 
> > > So on node2 I created a "1" directory and moved 1 index from master to  
> > > data ; So master now has six indexes in 0 and data has one in 1.  
> > > When I started elasticsearch after that I got to a point where the  
> > > master is not NOT copying the data back to itself.. but now node2 is  
> > > copying master's data and making a "0" directory ; Also, I am unable to  
> > > query the node2's data !
> > > 
> > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Moving data on the OS level without making ES aware can cause  
> > > > difficulties as you are seeing.
> > > > 
> > > > A few suggestions on how to resolve this and improve things in  
> > > > general;
> > > > 
> > > > 1. Set your heap size to 31GB.
> > > > 2. Use Oracle's java, not OpenJDK.
> > > > 3. Set bootstrap.mlockall to true, you don't want to swap, ever.
> > > > 
> > > > Given the large number of indexes you have on node1, and to get to a  
> > > > point where you can move some of these to a new node and stop the root  
> > > > problem, it's going to be worth closing some of the older indexes. So try  
> > > > these steps;
> > > > 
> > > > 1. Stop node2.
> > > > 2. Delete any data from the second node, to prevent things being  
> > > > auto imported again.
> > > > 3. Start node1, or restart it if it's running.
> > > > 4. Close all your indexes older than a month -  
> > > > [Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/indices-open-close.html).  
> > > > You can use wildcards in index names to make the update easier. What this  
> > > > will do is tell ES to not load the index metadata into memory, which will  
> > > > help with your OOM issue.
> > > > 5. Start node2 and let it join the cluster.
> > > > 6. Make sure the cluster is in a green state. If you're not  
> > > > already, use something like ElasticHQ, kopf or Marvel to monitor things.
> > > > 7. Let the cluster rebalance the current open indexes.
> > > > 8. Once that is ok and things are stable, reopen your closed  
> > > > indexes a month at a time, and let them rebalance.
> > > > 
> > > > That should get you back up and running. Once you're there we can go  
> > > > back to your original post 🙂
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,  
> > > > Mark Walkom
> > > > 
> > > > Infrastructure Engineer  
> > > > Campaign Monitor  
> > > > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
> > > > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)
> > > > 
> > > > On 6 May 2014 11:15, Nishchay Shah [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Thanks Nate, but this doesn't work. node2 is not the master. So  
> > > > > starting it first didn't make sense, anyway I tried it and I couldn't  
> > > > > execute anything on a nonmaster node (node2) unless master was started
> > > > > 
> > > > > I started node2 (non master) and ran this: curl -XPUT  
> > > > > localhost:9200/\_cluster/settings -d  
> > > > > '{"transient":{"cluster.routing.allocation.disable\_allocation":true}}'  
> > > > > after 30s I got this:  
> > > > > {"error":"MasterNotDiscoveredException[waited for [30s]]","status":503}
> > > > > 
> > > > > I started node1 and as bloody expected elasticsearch copied all the  
> > > > > indexes ☹ ..  
> > > > > _"auto importing dangled indices"_
> > > > > 
> > > > > I cannot believe I am unable to get this fundamental elasticsearch  
> > > > > feature working !
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Nate Fox [thefox@gmail.com](mailto:thefox@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Get node2 running with rock. Then issue a disable\_allocation and then  
> > > > > > bring up node1.  
> > > > > > curl -XPUT localhost:9200/\_cluster/settings -d  
> > > > > > '{"transient":{"cluster.routing.allocation.disable\_allocation":true}}'
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > From there, adjust the replica settings on the indexes down to 0 so  
> > > > > > they dont copy. Once thats set, change disable\_allocation to false.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Nish [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > _.."- Fire up both nodes, make sure they both have the same cluster  
> > > > > > > name"_ \<= This is exactly what I wrote in my second message is  
> > > > > > > where Elasticsearch is messing up. When I move the index to a new node and  
> > > > > > > delete that index from master and then start master node and other data  
> > > > > > > node, it (master) throws a message:  
> > > > > > > "auto importing dangled indices"  
> > > > > > > This means master is now copying the "deleted" index that exists  
> > > > > > > only on other node to itself !
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Basically this is what happens:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 1. Node1 Master: rock,paper,scissors
> > > > > > > 2. I move rock from Node 1 to Node 2 (I verify by starting ONLY  
> > > > > > > node1 and I can see that I am missing data that was originally in "rock"  
> > > > > > > index, as expected, all good)
> > > > > > > 3. SO node1 now has paper,scissors
> > > > > > > 4. I start Node2 with ONLY "rock" index (verify independently,  
> > > > > > > it works)
> > > > > > > 5. Then I start node 1 (master) and node 2(data)
> > > > > > > 6. Node1 sees says "hey I don't have rock, but node2 has it, let  
> > > > > > > me copy it to myself"
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:44:17 PM UTC-4, Nate Fox wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > You might turn off the bootstrap.mlockall flag just for now - it'll  
> > > > > > > > make ES swap a ton, but your error message looks like an OS level issue.  
> > > > > > > > Make sure you have lots of swap available and grab some coffee.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > What I'd also try if turning off bootstrap.mlockall doesnt work:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > - Tarball the entire data directory and save the tarball somewhere  
> > > > > > > > (unless you dont care about the data)
> > > > > > > > - Set 31Gb for your ES HEAP. There's plenty of docs out there that  
> > > > > > > > say not to go over 32Gb of ram cause it'll cause Java to go into 64bit mode.
> > > > > > > > - Copy the entire data dir to node2
> > > > > > > > - Go into the data dir on node1 and delete half of the indexes
> > > > > > > > - Go into the data dir on node2 and delete the _other_ half of the  
> > > > > > > > indexes
> > > > > > > > - Fire up both nodes, make sure they both have the same cluster name
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I have no idea if this'll work, I'm by no means an ES expert. 🙂
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Nish [elect...@gmail.com](mailto:elect...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Currently I have 279 indexes on a single node and elasticsearch  
> > > > > > > > > starts for few minutes and dies ; I only have 60G RAM on disk and as far as  
> > > > > > > > > I know 60% is the max that one should allocate to elasticsearch ; I tried  
> > > > > > > > > allocating 38G and it lasted for few more minutes and it died.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > _(I think there's some state files that tell ES/Lucene which  
> > > > > > > > > indexes are on disk)_ =\> Where is this ? How do I fix it so that  
> > > > > > > > > it doesn't move all indexes to all nodes ? I want to split the ~280 indexes  
> > > > > > > > > into two nodes of 140each. So far I am not able to achieve this as the  
> > > > > > > > > master keeps moving nodes to itself !
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:25:05 PM UTC-4, Nate Fox wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > How many indexes do you have? It almost looks like the system  
> > > > > > > > > > itself cant allocate the ram needed?  
> > > > > > > > > > You might try jacking up the nofile to something like 999999 as  
> > > > > > > > > > well? I'd definitely go with 31g heapsize.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > As for moving indexes, you might be able to copy the entire data  
> > > > > > > > > > store, then remove some (I think there's some state files that tell  
> > > > > > > > > > ES/Lucene which indexes are on disk), so it might recover if its missing  
> > > > > > > > > > some and sees the others on another node?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > As for your other questions, it depends on usage as to how many  
> > > > > > > > > > nodes - especially search activity while indexing. We have 230 indexes  
> > > > > > > > > > (1740 shards) on 8 data nodes (5.7Tb / 6.1B docs). So it can definitely  
> > > > > > > > > > handle a lot more than what you're throwing at it. We dont search often nor  
> > > > > > > > > > do we load a ton of data at once.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, May 4, 2014 7:13:09 AM UTC-7, Nish wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > elasticsearch is set as a single node instance on a 60G RAM and  
> > > > > > > > > > > 32\*2.6GHz machine. I am actively indexing historic data with logstash. It  
> > > > > > > > > > > worked well with ~300 million documents (search and indexing were doing ok)  
> > > > > > > > > > > , but all of a sudden es fails to starts and keep itself up. It starts for  
> > > > > > > > > > > few minutes and I can query but fails with out of memory error. I monitor  
> > > > > > > > > > > the memory and atleast 12G of memory is available when it fails. I had set  
> > > > > > > > > > > the es\_heap\_size to 31G and then reduced it to 28, 24 and 18 and the same  
> > > > > > > > > > > error every time (see dump below)
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > \*My security limits are as under (this is a test/POC server  
> > > > > > > > > > > thus "root" user) \*
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > root soft nofile 65536  
> > > > > > > > > > > root hard nofile 65536  
> > > > > > > > > > > root - memlock unlimited
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > \*ES settings \*  
> > > > > > > > > > > config]# grep -v "^#" elasticsearch.yml | grep -v "^$"  
> > > > > > > > > > > bootstrap.mlockall: true
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > _echo $ES\_HEAP\_SIZE_  
> > > > > > > > > > > 18432m
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > ---DUMP----
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > # bin/elasticsearch
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] version[1.1.1], pid[19309], build[f1585f0/2014-04-16T14:  
> > > > > > > > > > > 27:12Z]  
> > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] initializing ...  
> > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,669][INFO][plugins]  
> > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] loaded , sites   
> > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] initialized  
> > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] starting ...  
> > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,531][INFO][transport]  
> > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9300]}, publish\_address  
> > > > > > > > > > > {inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]}  
> > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,553][INFO][cluster.service]  
> > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] new\_master [Sabretooth][eocFkTYMQnSTUar94  
> > > > > > > > > > > A2vHw][ip-10-109-136-59][inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]], reason:  
> > > > > > > > > > > zen-disco-join (elected\_as\_master)  
> > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,579][INFO][discovery]  
> > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] elasticsearch/eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw  
> > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,790][INFO][http]  
> > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9200]}, publish\_address  
> > > > > > > > > > > {inet[/10.109.136.59:9200]}  
> > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:19,976][INFO][gateway]  
> > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] recovered [278] indices into cluster\_state  
> > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:19,984][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] started  
> > > > > > > > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to protect stack guard  
> > > > > > > > > > > pages failed.  
> > > > > > > > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to deallocate stack  
> > > > > > > > > > > guard pages failed.  
> > > > > > > > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: INFO: os::commit\_memory(  
> > > > > > > > > > > 0x00000007f7c70000, 196608, 0) failed; error='Cannot allocate  
> > > > > > > > > > > memory' (errno=12)
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > # 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > # There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > to continue.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > # Native memory allocation (malloc) failed to allocate 196608
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > bytes for committing reserved memory.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > # An error report file with more information is saved as:
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > # /tmp/jvm-19309/hs\_error.log
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > * * *
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > \*user untergeek on #logstash told me that I have reached a max  
> > > > > > > > > > > number of indices on a single node. Here are my questions: \*
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 1. Can I move half of my indexes to a new node ? If yes, how  
> > > > > > > > > > > to do that without compromising indexes
> > > > > > > > > > > 2. Logstash makes 1 index per day and I want to have 2 years  
> > > > > > > > > > > of data indexable ; Can I combine multiple indexes into one ? Like one  
> > > > > > > > > > > month per month : this will mean I will not have more than 24 indexes.
> > > > > > > > > > > 3. How many nodes are ideal for 24 moths of data ~1.5G a day
> > > > > > > > > > > 
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**Post date:** [May 6, 2014, 3:27am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/jdk-fails-with-out-of-memory-error-es-critical-index-counts/17335/14 "2014-05-06T03:27:10Z")

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You need to install a monitoring plugin to gain better insight into what is  
happening, it makes things a lot easier to visually see cluster/node/index  
state and remove your shell commands, which may not be 100% representative  
of what ES is actually doing.

I suggest elastichq and marvel.

Regards,  
Mark Walkom

Infrastructure Engineer  
Campaign Monitor  
email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)

On 6 May 2014 13:06, Nishchay Shah [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com) wrote:

> FYI settings:  
> _Master_:  
> [root@ip-10-169-36-251 logstash-2013.12.05]# grep -vE "^$|^#"  
> /xx/elasticsearch-1.1.1/config/elasticsearch.yml  
> cluster.name: elasticsearchtest  
> node.name: "node1"  
> node.master: true  
> node.data: true  
> index.number\_of\_replicas: 0  
> discovery.zen.ping.multicast.enabled: false  
> discovery.zen.ping.unicast.hosts: ["10.169.36.251", "10.186.152.19"]  
> _Non Master_  
> [root@ip-10-186-152-19 logstash-2013.12.05]# grep -vE "^$|^#"  
> /elasticsearch/es/elasticsearch-1.1.1/config/elasticsearch.yml  
> cluster.name: elasticsearchtest  
> node.name: "node2"  
> node.master: false  
> node.data: true  
> index.number\_of\_replicas: 0  
> discovery.zen.ping.multicast.enabled: false  
> discovery.zen.ping.unicast.hosts: ["10.169.36.251","10.186.152.19"]
> 
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Nishchay Shah [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com)wrote:
> 
> > Probably not.
> > 
> > I deleted all data from slave and restarted both servers and I see this:
> > 
> > \*Master: \*  
> > [root@ip-10-169-36-251 logstash-2013.12.22]# du -h --max-depth=1  
> > 16M ./0  
> > 16M ./1  
> > 8.0K ./\_state  
> > 15M ./4  
> > 15M ./3  
> > 15M ./2  
> > 75M .
> > 
> > \*Data: \*
> > 
> > [root@ip-10-186-152-19 logstash-2013.12.22]# du -h --max-depth=1  
> > 16M ./0  
> > 16M ./1  
> > 15M ./4  
> > 15M ./3  
> > 15M ./2  
> > 75M .
> > 
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)wrote:
> > 
> > > Don't copy indexes on the OS level!
> > > 
> > > Is your new cluster balancing the shards?
> > > 
> > > Regards,  
> > > Mark Walkom
> > > 
> > > Infrastructure Engineer  
> > > Campaign Monitor  
> > > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
> > > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)
> > > 
> > > On 6 May 2014 12:46, Nishchay Shah [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hey Mark,  
> > > > Thanks for the response. I have currently created two new medium test  
> > > > instances (1 master 1 data only) because I didn't want to mess with the  
> > > > main dataset. In my test setup, I have about 600MB of data ; 7 indexes
> > > > 
> > > > After looking around a lot I saw that the directory organization is  
> > > > /elasticsearch/es/elasticsearch-1.1.1/data/elasticsearchtest/nodes// and the master node has only 1 directory
> > > > 
> > > > (master)
> > > > 
> > > > # ls /elasticsearch/es/elasticsearch-1.1.1/data/elasticsearchtest/nodes
> > > > 
> > > > 0
> > > > 
> > > > So on node2 I created a "1" directory and moved 1 index from master to  
> > > > data ; So master now has six indexes in 0 and data has one in 1.  
> > > > When I started elasticsearch after that I got to a point where the  
> > > > master is not NOT copying the data back to itself.. but now node2 is  
> > > > copying master's data and making a "0" directory ; Also, I am unable to  
> > > > query the node2's data !
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Moving data on the OS level without making ES aware can cause  
> > > > > difficulties as you are seeing.
> > > > > 
> > > > > A few suggestions on how to resolve this and improve things in  
> > > > > general;
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1. Set your heap size to 31GB.
> > > > > 2. Use Oracle's java, not OpenJDK.
> > > > > 3. Set bootstrap.mlockall to true, you don't want to swap, ever.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Given the large number of indexes you have on node1, and to get to a  
> > > > > point where you can move some of these to a new node and stop the root  
> > > > > problem, it's going to be worth closing some of the older indexes. So try  
> > > > > these steps;
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1. Stop node2.
> > > > > 2. Delete any data from the second node, to prevent things being  
> > > > > auto imported again.
> > > > > 3. Start node1, or restart it if it's running.
> > > > > 4. Close all your indexes older than a month -  
> > > > > [Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/indices-open-close.html).  
> > > > > You can use wildcards in index names to make the update easier. What this  
> > > > > will do is tell ES to not load the index metadata into memory, which will  
> > > > > help with your OOM issue.
> > > > > 5. Start node2 and let it join the cluster.
> > > > > 6. Make sure the cluster is in a green state. If you're not  
> > > > > already, use something like ElasticHQ, kopf or Marvel to monitor things.
> > > > > 7. Let the cluster rebalance the current open indexes.
> > > > > 8. Once that is ok and things are stable, reopen your closed  
> > > > > indexes a month at a time, and let them rebalance.
> > > > > 
> > > > > That should get you back up and running. Once you're there we can go  
> > > > > back to your original post 🙂
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards,  
> > > > > Mark Walkom
> > > > > 
> > > > > Infrastructure Engineer  
> > > > > Campaign Monitor  
> > > > > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
> > > > > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 6 May 2014 11:15, Nishchay Shah [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks Nate, but this doesn't work. node2 is not the master. So  
> > > > > > starting it first didn't make sense, anyway I tried it and I couldn't  
> > > > > > execute anything on a nonmaster node (node2) unless master was started
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I started node2 (non master) and ran this: curl -XPUT  
> > > > > > localhost:9200/\_cluster/settings -d  
> > > > > > '{"transient":{"cluster.routing.allocation.disable\_allocation":true}}'  
> > > > > > after 30s I got this:  
> > > > > > {"error":"MasterNotDiscoveredException[waited for  
> > > > > > [30s]]","status":503}
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I started node1 and as bloody expected elasticsearch copied all the  
> > > > > > indexes ☹ ..  
> > > > > > _"auto importing dangled indices"_
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I cannot believe I am unable to get this fundamental elasticsearch  
> > > > > > feature working !
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Nate Fox [thefox@gmail.com](mailto:thefox@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Get node2 running with rock. Then issue a disable\_allocation and  
> > > > > > > then bring up node1.  
> > > > > > > curl -XPUT localhost:9200/\_cluster/settings -d  
> > > > > > > '{"transient":{"cluster.routing.allocation.disable\_allocation":true}}'
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > From there, adjust the replica settings on the indexes down to 0 so  
> > > > > > > they dont copy. Once thats set, change disable\_allocation to false.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Nish [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > _.."- Fire up both nodes, make sure they both have the same cluster  
> > > > > > > > name"_ \<= This is exactly what I wrote in my second message is  
> > > > > > > > where Elasticsearch is messing up. When I move the index to a new node and  
> > > > > > > > delete that index from master and then start master node and other data  
> > > > > > > > node, it (master) throws a message:  
> > > > > > > > "auto importing dangled indices"  
> > > > > > > > This means master is now copying the "deleted" index that exists  
> > > > > > > > only on other node to itself !
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Basically this is what happens:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 1. Node1 Master: rock,paper,scissors
> > > > > > > > 2. I move rock from Node 1 to Node 2 (I verify by starting ONLY  
> > > > > > > > node1 and I can see that I am missing data that was originally in "rock"  
> > > > > > > > index, as expected, all good)
> > > > > > > > 3. SO node1 now has paper,scissors
> > > > > > > > 4. I start Node2 with ONLY "rock" index (verify independently,  
> > > > > > > > it works)
> > > > > > > > 5. Then I start node 1 (master) and node 2(data)
> > > > > > > > 6. Node1 sees says "hey I don't have rock, but node2 has it,  
> > > > > > > > let me copy it to myself"
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:44:17 PM UTC-4, Nate Fox wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > You might turn off the bootstrap.mlockall flag just for now -  
> > > > > > > > > it'll make ES swap a ton, but your error message looks like an OS level  
> > > > > > > > > issue. Make sure you have lots of swap available and grab some coffee.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > What I'd also try if turning off bootstrap.mlockall doesnt work:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > - Tarball the entire data directory and save the tarball somewhere  
> > > > > > > > > (unless you dont care about the data)
> > > > > > > > > - Set 31Gb for your ES HEAP. There's plenty of docs out there that  
> > > > > > > > > say not to go over 32Gb of ram cause it'll cause Java to go into 64bit mode.
> > > > > > > > > - Copy the entire data dir to node2
> > > > > > > > > - Go into the data dir on node1 and delete half of the indexes
> > > > > > > > > - Go into the data dir on node2 and delete the _other_ half of the  
> > > > > > > > > indexes
> > > > > > > > > - Fire up both nodes, make sure they both have the same cluster  
> > > > > > > > > name
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I have no idea if this'll work, I'm by no means an ES expert. 🙂
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Nish [elect...@gmail.com](mailto:elect...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Currently I have 279 indexes on a single node and elasticsearch  
> > > > > > > > > > starts for few minutes and dies ; I only have 60G RAM on disk and as far as  
> > > > > > > > > > I know 60% is the max that one should allocate to elasticsearch ; I tried  
> > > > > > > > > > allocating 38G and it lasted for few more minutes and it died.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > _(I think there's some state files that tell ES/Lucene which  
> > > > > > > > > > indexes are on disk)_ =\> Where is this ? How do I fix it so that  
> > > > > > > > > > it doesn't move all indexes to all nodes ? I want to split the ~280 indexes  
> > > > > > > > > > into two nodes of 140each. So far I am not able to achieve this as the  
> > > > > > > > > > master keeps moving nodes to itself !
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:25:05 PM UTC-4, Nate Fox wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > How many indexes do you have? It almost looks like the system  
> > > > > > > > > > > itself cant allocate the ram needed?  
> > > > > > > > > > > You might try jacking up the nofile to something like 999999 as  
> > > > > > > > > > > well? I'd definitely go with 31g heapsize.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > As for moving indexes, you might be able to copy the entire data  
> > > > > > > > > > > store, then remove some (I think there's some state files that tell  
> > > > > > > > > > > ES/Lucene which indexes are on disk), so it might recover if its missing  
> > > > > > > > > > > some and sees the others on another node?
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > As for your other questions, it depends on usage as to how many  
> > > > > > > > > > > nodes - especially search activity while indexing. We have 230 indexes  
> > > > > > > > > > > (1740 shards) on 8 data nodes (5.7Tb / 6.1B docs). So it can definitely  
> > > > > > > > > > > handle a lot more than what you're throwing at it. We dont search often nor  
> > > > > > > > > > > do we load a ton of data at once.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, May 4, 2014 7:13:09 AM UTC-7, Nish wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > elasticsearch is set as a single node instance on a 60G RAM  
> > > > > > > > > > > > and 32\*2.6GHz machine. I am actively indexing historic data with logstash.  
> > > > > > > > > > > > It worked well with ~300 million documents (search and indexing were doing  
> > > > > > > > > > > > ok) , but all of a sudden es fails to starts and keep itself up. It starts  
> > > > > > > > > > > > for few minutes and I can query but fails with out of memory error. I  
> > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the memory and atleast 12G of memory is available when it fails. I  
> > > > > > > > > > > > had set the es\_heap\_size to 31G and then reduced it to 28, 24 and 18 and  
> > > > > > > > > > > > the same error every time (see dump below)
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > \*My security limits are as under (this is a test/POC server  
> > > > > > > > > > > > thus "root" user) \*
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > root soft nofile 65536  
> > > > > > > > > > > > root hard nofile 65536  
> > > > > > > > > > > > root - memlock unlimited
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > \*ES settings \*  
> > > > > > > > > > > > config]# grep -v "^#" elasticsearch.yml | grep -v "^$"  
> > > > > > > > > > > > bootstrap.mlockall: true
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > _echo $ES\_HEAP\_SIZE_  
> > > > > > > > > > > > 18432m
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > ---DUMP----
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > # bin/elasticsearch
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] version[1.1.1], pid[19309], build[f1585f0/2014-04-16T14:  
> > > > > > > > > > > > 27:12Z]  
> > > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] initializing ...  
> > > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,669][INFO][plugins]  
> > > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] loaded , sites   
> > > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] initialized  
> > > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] starting ...  
> > > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,531][INFO][transport]  
> > > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9300]}, publish\_address  
> > > > > > > > > > > > {inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]}  
> > > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,553][INFO][cluster.service]  
> > > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] new\_master [Sabretooth][eocFkTYMQnSTUar94  
> > > > > > > > > > > > A2vHw][ip-10-109-136-59][inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]], reason:  
> > > > > > > > > > > > zen-disco-join (elected\_as\_master)  
> > > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,579][INFO][discovery]  
> > > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] elasticsearch/eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw  
> > > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,790][INFO][http]  
> > > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9200]}, publish\_address  
> > > > > > > > > > > > {inet[/10.109.136.59:9200]}  
> > > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:19,976][INFO][gateway]  
> > > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] recovered [278] indices into cluster\_state  
> > > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:19,984][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] started  
> > > > > > > > > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to protect stack  
> > > > > > > > > > > > guard pages failed.  
> > > > > > > > > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to deallocate stack  
> > > > > > > > > > > > guard pages failed.  
> > > > > > > > > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: INFO: os::commit\_memory(  
> > > > > > > > > > > > 0x00000007f7c70000, 196608, 0) failed; error='Cannot allocate  
> > > > > > > > > > > > memory' (errno=12)
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > # 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > # There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > to continue.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > # Native memory allocation (malloc) failed to allocate 196608
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > bytes for committing reserved memory.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > # An error report file with more information is saved as:
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > # /tmp/jvm-19309/hs\_error.log
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > * * *
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > \*user untergeek on #logstash told me that I have reached a max  
> > > > > > > > > > > > number of indices on a single node. Here are my questions: \*
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Can I move half of my indexes to a new node ? If yes,  
> > > > > > > > > > > > how to do that without compromising indexes
> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Logstash makes 1 index per day and I want to have 2  
> > > > > > > > > > > > years of data indexable ; Can I combine multiple indexes into one ? Like  
> > > > > > > > > > > > one month per month : this will mean I will not have more than 24 indexes.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 3. How many nodes are ideal for 24 moths of data ~1.5G a day
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
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**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 2:30pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/jdk-fails-with-out-of-memory-error-es-critical-index-counts/17335/15 "2014-05-08T14:30:03Z")

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ok I got marvel up and running on my test instances

On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:27 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)wrote:

> You need to install a monitoring plugin to gain better insight into what  
> is happening, it makes things a lot easier to visually see  
> cluster/node/index state and remove your shell commands, which may not be  
> 100% representative of what ES is actually doing.
> 
> I suggest elastichq and marvel.
> 
> Regards,  
> Mark Walkom
> 
> Infrastructure Engineer  
> Campaign Monitor  
> email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
> web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)
> 
> On 6 May 2014 13:06, Nishchay Shah [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com) wrote:
> 
> > FYI settings:  
> > _Master_:  
> > [root@ip-10-169-36-251 logstash-2013.12.05]# grep -vE "^$|^#"  
> > /xx/elasticsearch-1.1.1/config/elasticsearch.yml  
> > cluster.name: elasticsearchtest  
> > node.name: "node1"  
> > node.master: true  
> > node.data: true  
> > index.number\_of\_replicas: 0  
> > discovery.zen.ping.multicast.enabled: false  
> > discovery.zen.ping.unicast.hosts: ["10.169.36.251", "10.186.152.19"]  
> > _Non Master_  
> > [root@ip-10-186-152-19 logstash-2013.12.05]# grep -vE "^$|^#"  
> > /elasticsearch/es/elasticsearch-1.1.1/config/elasticsearch.yml  
> > cluster.name: elasticsearchtest  
> > node.name: "node2"  
> > node.master: false  
> > node.data: true  
> > index.number\_of\_replicas: 0  
> > discovery.zen.ping.multicast.enabled: false  
> > discovery.zen.ping.unicast.hosts: ["10.169.36.251","10.186.152.19"]
> > 
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Nishchay Shah [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com)wrote:
> > 
> > > Probably not.
> > > 
> > > I deleted all data from slave and restarted both servers and I see this:
> > > 
> > > \*Master: \*  
> > > [root@ip-10-169-36-251 logstash-2013.12.22]# du -h --max-depth=1  
> > > 16M ./0  
> > > 16M ./1  
> > > 8.0K ./\_state  
> > > 15M ./4  
> > > 15M ./3  
> > > 15M ./2  
> > > 75M .
> > > 
> > > \*Data: \*
> > > 
> > > [root@ip-10-186-152-19 logstash-2013.12.22]# du -h --max-depth=1  
> > > 16M ./0  
> > > 16M ./1  
> > > 15M ./4  
> > > 15M ./3  
> > > 15M ./2  
> > > 75M .
> > > 
> > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Don't copy indexes on the OS level!
> > > > 
> > > > Is your new cluster balancing the shards?
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,  
> > > > Mark Walkom
> > > > 
> > > > Infrastructure Engineer  
> > > > Campaign Monitor  
> > > > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
> > > > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)
> > > > 
> > > > On 6 May 2014 12:46, Nishchay Shah [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hey Mark,  
> > > > > Thanks for the response. I have currently created two new medium test  
> > > > > instances (1 master 1 data only) because I didn't want to mess with the  
> > > > > main dataset. In my test setup, I have about 600MB of data ; 7 indexes
> > > > > 
> > > > > After looking around a lot I saw that the directory organization is  
> > > > > /elasticsearch/es/elasticsearch-1.1.1/data/elasticsearchtest/nodes// and the master node has only 1 directory
> > > > > 
> > > > > (master)
> > > > > 
> > > > > # ls /elasticsearch/es/elasticsearch-1.1.1/data/elasticsearchtest/nodes
> > > > > 
> > > > > 0
> > > > > 
> > > > > So on node2 I created a "1" directory and moved 1 index from master to  
> > > > > data ; So master now has six indexes in 0 and data has one in 1.  
> > > > > When I started elasticsearch after that I got to a point where the  
> > > > > master is not NOT copying the data back to itself.. but now node2 is  
> > > > > copying master's data and making a "0" directory ; Also, I am unable to  
> > > > > query the node2's data !
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Mark Walkom \<[markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)
> > > > > 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Moving data on the OS level without making ES aware can cause  
> > > > > > difficulties as you are seeing.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > A few suggestions on how to resolve this and improve things in  
> > > > > > general;
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 1. Set your heap size to 31GB.
> > > > > > 2. Use Oracle's java, not OpenJDK.
> > > > > > 3. Set bootstrap.mlockall to true, you don't want to swap, ever.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Given the large number of indexes you have on node1, and to get to a  
> > > > > > point where you can move some of these to a new node and stop the root  
> > > > > > problem, it's going to be worth closing some of the older indexes. So try  
> > > > > > these steps;
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 1. Stop node2.
> > > > > > 2. Delete any data from the second node, to prevent things being  
> > > > > > auto imported again.
> > > > > > 3. Start node1, or restart it if it's running.
> > > > > > 4. Close all your indexes older than a month -  
> > > > > > [Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/indices-open-close.html).  
> > > > > > You can use wildcards in index names to make the update easier. What this  
> > > > > > will do is tell ES to not load the index metadata into memory, which will  
> > > > > > help with your OOM issue.
> > > > > > 5. Start node2 and let it join the cluster.
> > > > > > 6. Make sure the cluster is in a green state. If you're not  
> > > > > > already, use something like ElasticHQ, kopf or Marvel to monitor things.
> > > > > > 7. Let the cluster rebalance the current open indexes.
> > > > > > 8. Once that is ok and things are stable, reopen your closed  
> > > > > > indexes a month at a time, and let them rebalance.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That should get you back up and running. Once you're there we can go  
> > > > > > back to your original post 🙂
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Regards,  
> > > > > > Mark Walkom
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Infrastructure Engineer  
> > > > > > Campaign Monitor  
> > > > > > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
> > > > > > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On 6 May 2014 11:15, Nishchay Shah [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks Nate, but this doesn't work. node2 is not the master. So  
> > > > > > > starting it first didn't make sense, anyway I tried it and I couldn't  
> > > > > > > execute anything on a nonmaster node (node2) unless master was started
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I started node2 (non master) and ran this: curl -XPUT  
> > > > > > > localhost:9200/\_cluster/settings -d  
> > > > > > > '{"transient":{"cluster.routing.allocation.disable\_allocation":true}}'  
> > > > > > > after 30s I got this:  
> > > > > > > {"error":"MasterNotDiscoveredException[waited for  
> > > > > > > [30s]]","status":503}
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I started node1 and as bloody expected elasticsearch copied all the  
> > > > > > > indexes ☹ ..  
> > > > > > > _"auto importing dangled indices"_
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I cannot believe I am unable to get this fundamental elasticsearch  
> > > > > > > feature working !
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Nate Fox [thefox@gmail.com](mailto:thefox@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Get node2 running with rock. Then issue a disable\_allocation and  
> > > > > > > > then bring up node1.  
> > > > > > > > curl -XPUT localhost:9200/\_cluster/settings -d  
> > > > > > > > '{"transient":{"cluster.routing.allocation.disable\_allocation":true}}'
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > From there, adjust the replica settings on the indexes down to 0 so  
> > > > > > > > they dont copy. Once thats set, change disable\_allocation to false.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Nish [electronish@gmail.com](mailto:electronish@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > _.."- Fire up both nodes, make sure they both have the same  
> > > > > > > > > cluster name"_ \<= This is exactly what I wrote in my second  
> > > > > > > > > message is where Elasticsearch is messing up. When I move the index to a  
> > > > > > > > > new node and delete that index from master and then start master node and  
> > > > > > > > > other data node, it (master) throws a message:  
> > > > > > > > > "auto importing dangled indices"  
> > > > > > > > > This means master is now copying the "deleted" index that exists  
> > > > > > > > > only on other node to itself !
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Basically this is what happens:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 1. Node1 Master: rock,paper,scissors
> > > > > > > > > 2. I move rock from Node 1 to Node 2 (I verify by starting  
> > > > > > > > > ONLY node1 and I can see that I am missing data that was originally in  
> > > > > > > > > "rock" index, as expected, all good)
> > > > > > > > > 3. SO node1 now has paper,scissors
> > > > > > > > > 4. I start Node2 with ONLY "rock" index (verify independently,  
> > > > > > > > > it works)
> > > > > > > > > 5. Then I start node 1 (master) and node 2(data)
> > > > > > > > > 6. Node1 sees says "hey I don't have rock, but node2 has it,  
> > > > > > > > > let me copy it to myself"
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:44:17 PM UTC-4, Nate Fox wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > You might turn off the bootstrap.mlockall flag just for now -  
> > > > > > > > > > it'll make ES swap a ton, but your error message looks like an OS level  
> > > > > > > > > > issue. Make sure you have lots of swap available and grab some coffee.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > What I'd also try if turning off bootstrap.mlockall doesnt work:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > - Tarball the entire data directory and save the tarball  
> > > > > > > > > > somewhere (unless you dont care about the data)
> > > > > > > > > > - Set 31Gb for your ES HEAP. There's plenty of docs out there  
> > > > > > > > > > that say not to go over 32Gb of ram cause it'll cause Java to go into 64bit  
> > > > > > > > > > mode.
> > > > > > > > > > - Copy the entire data dir to node2
> > > > > > > > > > - Go into the data dir on node1 and delete half of the indexes
> > > > > > > > > > - Go into the data dir on node2 and delete the _other_ half of  
> > > > > > > > > > the indexes
> > > > > > > > > > - Fire up both nodes, make sure they both have the same cluster  
> > > > > > > > > > name
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I have no idea if this'll work, I'm by no means an ES expert. 🙂
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Nish [elect...@gmail.com](mailto:elect...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Currently I have 279 indexes on a single node and  
> > > > > > > > > > > elasticsearch starts for few minutes and dies ; I only have 60G RAM on disk  
> > > > > > > > > > > and as far as I know 60% is the max that one should allocate to  
> > > > > > > > > > > elasticsearch ; I tried allocating 38G and it lasted for few more minutes  
> > > > > > > > > > > and it died.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > _(I think there's some state files that tell ES/Lucene which  
> > > > > > > > > > > indexes are on disk)_ =\> Where is this ? How do I fix it so  
> > > > > > > > > > > that it doesn't move all indexes to all nodes ? I want to split the ~280  
> > > > > > > > > > > indexes into two nodes of 140each. So far I am not able to achieve this as  
> > > > > > > > > > > the master keeps moving nodes to itself !
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:25:05 PM UTC-4, Nate Fox wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > How many indexes do you have? It almost looks like the system  
> > > > > > > > > > > > itself cant allocate the ram needed?  
> > > > > > > > > > > > You might try jacking up the nofile to something like 999999 as  
> > > > > > > > > > > > well? I'd definitely go with 31g heapsize.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > As for moving indexes, you might be able to copy the entire  
> > > > > > > > > > > > data store, then remove some (I think there's some state files that tell  
> > > > > > > > > > > > ES/Lucene which indexes are on disk), so it might recover if its missing  
> > > > > > > > > > > > some and sees the others on another node?
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > As for your other questions, it depends on usage as to how many  
> > > > > > > > > > > > nodes - especially search activity while indexing. We have 230 indexes  
> > > > > > > > > > > > (1740 shards) on 8 data nodes (5.7Tb / 6.1B docs). So it can definitely  
> > > > > > > > > > > > handle a lot more than what you're throwing at it. We dont search often nor  
> > > > > > > > > > > > do we load a ton of data at once.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, May 4, 2014 7:13:09 AM UTC-7, Nish wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > elasticsearch is set as a single node instance on a 60G RAM  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and 32\*2.6GHz machine. I am actively indexing historic data with logstash.  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It worked well with ~300 million documents (search and indexing were doing  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ok) , but all of a sudden es fails to starts and keep itself up. It starts  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > for few minutes and I can query but fails with out of memory error. I  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor the memory and atleast 12G of memory is available when it fails. I  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > had set the es\_heap\_size to 31G and then reduced it to 28, 24 and 18 and  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the same error every time (see dump below)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > \*My security limits are as under (this is a test/POC server  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > thus "root" user) \*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > root soft nofile 65536  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > root hard nofile 65536  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > root - memlock unlimited
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > \*ES settings \*  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > config]# grep -v "^#" elasticsearch.yml | grep -v "^$"  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > bootstrap.mlockall: true
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > _echo $ES\_HEAP\_SIZE_  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 18432m
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ---DUMP----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > # bin/elasticsearch
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] version[1.1.1], pid[19309], build[f1585f0/2014-04-16T14:  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 27:12Z]  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,653][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] initializing ...  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:12,669][INFO][plugins]  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] loaded , sites   
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] initialized  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,390][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] starting ...  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:15,531][INFO][transport]  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9300]}, publish\_address  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > {inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]}  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,553][INFO][cluster.service]  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] new\_master [Sabretooth][eocFkTYMQnSTUar94  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > A2vHw][ip-10-109-136-59][inet[/10.109.136.59:9300]], reason:  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > zen-disco-join (elected\_as\_master)  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,579][INFO][discovery]  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] elasticsearch/eocFkTYMQnSTUar94A2vHw  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:18,790][INFO][http]  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] bound\_address {inet[/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:9200]}, publish\_address  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > {inet[/10.109.136.59:9200]}  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:19,976][INFO][gateway]  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] recovered [278] indices into cluster\_state  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [2014-05-04 13:30:19,984][INFO][node]  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Sabretooth] started  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to protect stack  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > guard pages failed.  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Attempt to deallocate stack  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > guard pages failed.  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: INFO: os::commit\_memory(  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 0x00000007f7c70000, 196608, 0) failed; error='Cannot allocate  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > memory' (errno=12)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > # 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > # There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Environment to continue.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > # Native memory allocation (malloc) failed to allocate 196608
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > bytes for committing reserved memory.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > # An error report file with more information is saved as:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > # /tmp/jvm-19309/hs\_error.log
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > * * *
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > \*user untergeek on #logstash told me that I have reached a max  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > number of indices on a single node. Here are my questions: \*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Can I move half of my indexes to a new node ? If yes,  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > how to do that without compromising indexes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Logstash makes 1 index per day and I want to have 2  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > years of data indexable ; Can I combine multiple indexes into one ? Like  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > one month per month : this will mean I will not have more than 24 indexes.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. How many nodes are ideal for 24 moths of data ~1.5G a  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > day
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
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