# Kibana 4.5 and 4.5.1 **URL:** \ **Category:** Kibana\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 9:06am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-4-5-and-4-5-1/49139 "2016-05-04T09:06:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Carlos\_Vega\_Moreno](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/carlos_vega_moreno/32/3773_2.png) [@Carlos\_Vega\_Moreno](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Carlos_Vega_Moreno)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 9:06am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-4-5-and-4-5-1/49139/1 "2016-05-04T09:06:42Z")
After testing the new released Kibana 4.5 I found that is far from being a stable version. Two main bugs make it unusable and unstable. I don't get how some features are not retested before releasing new versions. [Bugs like this](https://github.com/elastic/kibana/issues/6683) on the split titles make Kibana unusable and it's something you see right after install it. Also, after a while using it [I get a timeout error](https://github.com/elastic/kibana/issues/7120) using the same dashboards I used with Kibana 4.4. I see that these issues are noted and that you're working on it. Is there any estimation for the next Kibana release date? Thanks in advance and thanks for your work. Edit I: The issue of the split titles also occurs on Kibana 4.4.2 and 4.4.1 Edit II: This also happens on Kibana 4.4.0 Edit III: Well, it's going to be more complicated than that. The issue does not happen to me on a different node with Kibana 4.5. [Follow the issue here](https://github.com/elastic/kibana/issues/6683#issuecomment-216811218) ---
**Author:** ![shaunak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/shaunak/32/6643_2.png) [@shaunak](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/shaunak)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 1:17pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-4-5-and-4-5-1/49139/2 "2016-05-04T13:17:42Z")
Hi, unfortunately we cannot give an estimate for a release date when these two issues will be resolved. I see you have already commented on the issues giving details about your setup, which is great. If you find anything more, please add it to the issue — that's the best way to help get it resolved sooner. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Carlos\_Vega\_Moreno](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/carlos_vega_moreno/32/3773_2.png) [@Carlos\_Vega\_Moreno](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Carlos_Vega_Moreno)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 1:22pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-4-5-and-4-5-1/49139/3 "2016-05-04T13:22:35Z")
I added more details here. I don't know why I get this different behaviour. Any idea? Is exactly the same OS, Java, Kibana & Elasticsearch version. There must be a difference ! > [@Weird issue - Split Titles](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/weird-issue-split-titles/49176): > > Today I found a really weird issue. I have to machines, one for development and another one for demo. Both have CentOS 7 and Java 1.8.0\_40-b26 installed. I recently updated to Kibana 4.5 and Elasticsearch 2.3.2 on both machines. First on the development machine of course and I saw everything was working fine. But on the demo machine [I found an issue related with this one](https://github.com/elastic/kibana/issues/6683) in which the titles when I split a visualization are shown as ... instead of the values. I updated other machines to Kibana 4… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 1:54pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-4-5-and-4-5-1/49139/4 "2017-07-06T13:54:25Z")