# Kibana 6.1.0. and newer starts with error

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-6-1-0-and-newer-starts-with-error/111754>\
**Category:** Kibana\
**Created:** [December 14, 2017, 11:21am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-6-1-0-and-newer-starts-with-error/111754 "2017-12-14T11:21:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![fragatina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ccd318/32.png) [@fragatina](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/fragatina)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 2:26pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-6-1-0-and-newer-starts-with-error/111754/23 "2017-12-22T14:26:22Z")

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Hi, it seems we still have this similar issue with 6.1.1 version. And removing the .cache in optimize doesn't seem to work either. See [Kibana 6.1.1 Fatal Error at start](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-6-1-1-fatal-error-at-start/112986)

I don't have x-pack either.

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