# Kibana 6.3.0 failing on \> management \> Index Patterns

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-6-3-0-failing-on-management-index-patterns/140325>\
**Category:** Kibana\
**Created:** [July 17, 2018, 12:04pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-6-3-0-failing-on-management-index-patterns/140325 "2018-07-17T12:04:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![cjcenizal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/cjcenizal/32/11216_2.png) [@cjcenizal](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/cjcenizal)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-6-3-0-failing-on-management-index-patterns/140325/2 "2018-07-17T21:40:35Z")

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Hi there, can you share the log output of the Kibana server when this error occurs?

For reference purposes, here is a similar problem which another user has reported: [TypeError: Cannot read property 'message' of null](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/typeerror-cannot-read-property-message-of-null/110196).

Thanks,  
CJ

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