# Kibana 8.4: How do disable ML , APM, or entire observability app? **URL:** \ **Category:** Kibana\ **Tags:** elastic-stack-machine-learning\ **Created:** [October 12, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-8-4-how-do-disable-ml-apm-or-entire-observability-app/316447 "2022-10-12T15:26:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ebuildy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/ebuildy/32/6070_2.png) [@ebuildy](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/ebuildy)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-8-4-how-do-disable-ml-apm-or-entire-observability-app/316447/1 "2022-10-12T15:26:59Z")
We run elastic 8.4.3, elasticsearch + kibana. We dont run any "ml", but kibana tries to call elasticsearch ML api: ```auto [2022-10-12T01:19:52.716+00:00][ERROR][plugins.taskManager] Task ML:saved-objects-sync "ML:saved-objects-sync-task" failed: ResponseError: {"error":"Incorrect HTTP method for uri [/_ml/anomaly_detectors] and method [GET], allowed: [POST]","status":405} [2022-10-12T02:19:55.947+00:00][ERROR][plugins.taskManager] Task ML:saved-objects-sync "ML:saved-objects-sync-task" failed: ResponseError: {"error":"Incorrect HTTP method for uri [/_ml/anomaly_detectors] and method [GET], allowed: [POST]","status":405} [2022-10-12T02:26:50.287+00:00][INFO][plugins.securitySolution.endpoint:metadata-check-transforms-task:0.0.1] no endpoint installation found [2022-10-12T03:19:59.137+00:00][ERROR][plugins.taskManager] Task ML:saved-objects-sync "ML:saved-objects-sync-task" failed: ResponseError: {"error":"Incorrect HTTP method for uri [/_ml/anomaly_detectors] and method [GET], allowed: [POST]","status":405} [2022-10-12T04:19:32.335+00:00][WARN][plugins.apm] Failed executing APM telemetry task integrations [2022-10-12T04:19:32.337+00:00][WARN][plugins.apm] Error: {"error":"no handler found for uri [/_ml/anomaly_detectors/apm-*,*-high_mean_response_time] and method [GET]"} at /usr/share/kibana/x-pack/plugins/observability/common/utils/unwrap_es_response.js:59:11 at runMicrotasks () at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:96:5) at Object.executor (/usr/share/kibana/x-pack/plugins/apm/server/lib/apm_telemetry/collect_data_telemetry/tasks.js:708:22) at /usr/share/kibana/x-pack/plugins/apm/server/lib/apm_telemetry/collect_data_telemetry/index.js:32:22 at collectAndStore (/usr/share/kibana/x-pack/plugins/apm/server/lib/apm_telemetry/index.js:80:27) at Object.run (/usr/share/kibana/x-pack/plugins/apm/server/lib/apm_telemetry/index.js:48:13) at TaskManagerRunner.run (/usr/share/kibana/x-pack/plugins/task_manager/server/task_running/task_runner.js:299:22) Response: { error: 'no handler found for uri [/_ml/anomaly_detectors/apm-*,*-high_mean_response_time] and method [GET]' } ``` Also, how to disable `observability` app? We tried `xpack.ml.ui.enabled: false` but got `No validation schema has been defined for [xpack.ml]` error. ---
**Author:** ![jsanz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/jsanz/32/53734_2.png) [@jsanz](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jsanz)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 12:54pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-8-4-how-do-disable-ml-apm-or-entire-observability-app/316447/2 "2022-10-26T12:54:42Z")
You can remove the `ml` role from your [node](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/modules-node.html#node-roles),. ```auto node.roles: [master, data, ingest, transform] ``` As mentioned in this other [discussion](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/disable-machine-learning-process-creation/214913/2), a ml process will still be present as I can also see from my docker instance ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/0/9/092ffae82ea8093864b28288cfaf50dc1ec09bbf.png) The Machine Learning section will still appear in the Analytics solution because there are features associated to that section still available. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/a/6/a68eea0125fcc3b4bd19fe8c8790e76663dc83da.png) But you can create a role with custom access to kibana applications like in this case where no access is granted to ML inside Analytics, and whole Observability or Security solutions. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/d/0/d02b70d6977db3286960fe09da17c8fc5634e9a6.png) Assign that role to any new user and they should only see the Analytics section. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/7/0/704941554264a4a4f3a0888d2d399c475a3e66b6.png) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/7/1/713091ae2a5874a19adf548428c9291b4389a7e1.png) Hope it helps. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 8:47am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-8-4-how-do-disable-ml-apm-or-entire-observability-app/316447/3 "2022-11-23T08:47:30Z")
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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 5:38am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-8-4-how-do-disable-ml-apm-or-entire-observability-app/316447/4 "2022-12-21T05:38:20Z")
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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 5:38am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-8-4-how-do-disable-ml-apm-or-entire-observability-app/316447/5 "2023-01-18T05:38:57Z")
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