# Kibana 8.4: How do disable ML , APM, or entire observability app?

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-8-4-how-do-disable-ml-apm-or-entire-observability-app/316447>\
**Category:** Kibana\
**Tags:** elastic-stack-machine-learning\
**Created:** [October 12, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-8-4-how-do-disable-ml-apm-or-entire-observability-app/316447 "2022-10-12T15:26:59Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 12:54pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-8-4-how-do-disable-ml-apm-or-entire-observability-app/316447/2 "2022-10-26T12:54:42Z")

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You can remove the `ml` role from your [node](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/modules-node.html#node-roles),.

```auto
node.roles: [master, data, ingest, transform]

```

As mentioned in this other [discussion](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/disable-machine-learning-process-creation/214913/2), a ml process will still be present as I can also see from my docker instance

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/0/9/092ffae82ea8093864b28288cfaf50dc1ec09bbf.png)

The Machine Learning section will still appear in the Analytics solution because there are features associated to that section still available.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/a/6/a68eea0125fcc3b4bd19fe8c8790e76663dc83da.png)

But you can create a role with custom access to kibana applications like in this case where no access is granted to ML inside Analytics, and whole Observability or Security solutions.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/d/0/d02b70d6977db3286960fe09da17c8fc5634e9a6.png)

Assign that role to any new user and they should only see the Analytics section.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/7/0/704941554264a4a4f3a0888d2d399c475a3e66b6.png)

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/7/1/713091ae2a5874a19adf548428c9291b4389a7e1.png)

Hope it helps.

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