# Kibana and spaces API
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-and-spaces-api/205878
**Category:** Kibana
**Created:** [October 30, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-and-spaces-api/205878 "2019-10-30T14:27:23Z")
**Posts on this page:** 4
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### Author:  [@boubakr](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/boubakr)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-and-spaces-api/205878/1 "2019-10-30T14:27:23Z")
How can I create and manage spaces in kibana 7.4? I've tried to follow [this](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/kibana/7.4/spaces-api-post.html) documentation but when i post the request in the example I get this error:
> #! Deprecation: [types removal] Specifying types in document index requests is deprecated, use the typeless endpoints instead (/{index}/\_doc/{id}, /{index}/\_doc, or /{index}/\_create/{id}).
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### Author:  [@Larry\_Gregory](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Larry_Gregory)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2019, 12:41pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-and-spaces-api/205878/2 "2019-10-31T12:41:41Z")
@boubakr,
It looks like you tried to use this API against Elasticsearch, instead of Kibana (Kibana's built-in dev tools can't be used for Kibana's APIs).
Can you try to issue the request against Kibana instead, and report back?
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### Author:  [@boubakr](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/boubakr)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2019, 1:23pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-and-spaces-api/205878/3 "2019-10-31T13:23:17Z")
🙈🙈 yeah, you're right. I've tried to request against port 5601 and it works. Really thank you!
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### Author:  [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2019, 1:23pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-and-spaces-api/205878/4 "2019-11-28T13:23:18Z")
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