# Kibana and Tribe Nodes **URL:** \ **Category:** Kibana\ **Created:** [May 12, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-and-tribe-nodes/49938 "2016-05-12T21:07:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bmoss6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b4bc9f/32.png) [@bmoss6](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/bmoss6)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-and-tribe-nodes/49938/1 "2016-05-12T21:07:27Z")
I have tribe node which is connected to two ES clusters. I would like to visualize both clusters as one in kibana so I assumed that running kibana on my tribe node would be the solution. However, there seems to be errors (unable to create .kibana index) when I try to start kibana. I'd appreciate any help. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![jbudz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/jbudz/32/45922_2.png) [@jbudz](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jbudz)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-and-tribe-nodes/49938/2 "2016-05-12T21:25:38Z")
Kibana needs to be able to create the .kibana index if it doesn't exist, and tribe nodes don't allow index creation. [https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch/issues/15620](https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch/issues/15620) is an open issue that may help when implemented. [https://github.com/elastic/kibana/issues/3114](https://github.com/elastic/kibana/issues/3114) has some discussion on possible workarounds ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 1:53pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-and-tribe-nodes/49938/3 "2017-07-06T13:53:28Z")