# Kibana - APM UI - JVMs - Listing (Empty) JVM **URL:** \ **Category:** Kibana\ **Created:** [February 17, 2021, 9:34pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-apm-ui-jvms-listing-empty-jvm/264618 "2021-02-17T21:34:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![chandra2037](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/chandra2037/32/72142_2.png) [@chandra2037](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/chandra2037)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2021, 9:34pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-apm-ui-jvms-listing-empty-jvm/264618/1 "2021-02-17T21:34:56Z")
Hi, Elasticsearch - v7.10.1 Kibana - V7.10.1 APM Server - V7.10.1 APM Java agent - V1.20.0 Recently upgraded to Elastic stack to 7.10.1. In Kibana APM JVM UI, apart from the actual JVM there is an `(Empty)` JVM is showing up, as shown below. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/9/6/96f24f0406f58ddd65c5f10f71c4e82bfe0d38a4.png) All the CPU/Memory metrics are showing up the actual JVM, but trying to understand why the `(Empty)` JVM is showing up. In discover, I tried to find the data with service.node.name is blank, getting the following results ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/e/3/e3e09d60d635f49c858be0ca43d81bb50112da24.png) Wondering whether we can ignore the `(Empty)` or not. Any inputs will be appreciated. Thanks, Chandra ---
**Author:** ![riferrei](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/riferrei/32/104867_2.png) [@riferrei](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/riferrei)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2021, 12:41am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-apm-ui-jvms-listing-empty-jvm/264618/2 "2021-02-18T00:41:13Z")
This problem may have to do with your upgrade. According to the issue below when the field `service.node.name` is not part of the mapping index this seems to happen. New indices created with the right template should have this field but not older ones. > > > Hi there. > After the upgrade of my Stack to 7.5.0 (APM Java Agents 1.12.0 and APM Server 7.5.0) there's an issue related... ---
**Author:** ![dgieselaar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/dgieselaar/32/46947_2.png) [@dgieselaar](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dgieselaar)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2021, 7:41am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-apm-ui-jvms-listing-empty-jvm/264618/3 "2021-02-18T07:41:58Z")
Hi @chandra2037 - this is a bug in 7.10 that was fixed in 7.11: [[APM] Filter out service nodes if there are no metrics · Issue #85539 · elastic/kibana · GitHub](https://github.com/elastic/kibana/issues/85539). To answer your question, yes, you can ignore the (Empty) list item if there are no corresponding metrics. ---
**Author:** ![chandra2037](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/chandra2037/32/72142_2.png) [@chandra2037](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/chandra2037)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2021, 1:34pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-apm-ui-jvms-listing-empty-jvm/264618/4 "2021-02-18T13:34:39Z")
Thank you for your response @riferrei , all the templates and indices have been updated properly. Actual JVM metrics data is getting reported to the named JVM only, it is just that additional `(Empty)` JVM is showing up. ---
**Author:** ![chandra2037](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/chandra2037/32/72142_2.png) [@chandra2037](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/chandra2037)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2021, 1:35pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-apm-ui-jvms-listing-empty-jvm/264618/5 "2021-02-18T13:35:14Z")
Thank you @dgieselaar , that make sense. Will upgrade to 7.11 for the fix. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 1:36pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-apm-ui-jvms-listing-empty-jvm/264618/6 "2021-03-18T13:36:04Z")
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