# Kibana Blank Page After Deleting Index **URL:** \ **Category:** Kibana\ **Created:** [March 27, 2017, 4:14pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-blank-page-after-deleting-index/80164 "2017-03-27T16:14:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kopacko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/kopacko/32/10733_2.png) [@kopacko](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/kopacko)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 4:14pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-blank-page-after-deleting-index/80164/1 "2017-03-27T16:14:32Z")
I have a blank page for all pages, including the Discovery and Management pages. I have tried every option in terms of re-indexing, etc that I can find in order to get Kibana to reset. I have many visualizations, etc that I do not want to lose but cannot seem to get Kibana to come back. Anyone have any ideas? ---
**Author:** ![weltenwort](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/weltenwort/32/53885_2.png) [@weltenwort](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/weltenwort)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-blank-page-after-deleting-index/80164/2 "2017-03-27T17:15:51Z")
Is it possible that the default index pattern was deleted? If so you could try resetting it as I described in [this github comment](https://github.com/elastic/kibana/issues/9028#issuecomment-281169419). ---
**Author:** ![kopacko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/kopacko/32/10733_2.png) [@kopacko](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/kopacko)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 5:18pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-blank-page-after-deleting-index/80164/3 "2017-03-27T17:18:08Z")
It is possible and I think that is what happened. I tried that suggestion and still a blank page. I can see from CURL, that documents are still getting indexed and whatnot, I just cannot get Kibana to load. ---
**Author:** ![kopacko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/kopacko/32/10733_2.png) [@kopacko](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/kopacko)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2017, 7:56pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-blank-page-after-deleting-index/80164/4 "2017-03-27T19:56:08Z")
``` $ curl -XGET 'http://localhost:9200/_cat/indices?v&s=index' health status index uuid pri rep docs.count docs.deleted store.size pri.store.size green open .kibana f-kBvAucSaq7lHIByFDiUQ 1 0 164 17 419kb 419kb green open .kibana1 uxnHAkiDQD6jV8dYvWrAqQ 1 0 164 0 167.7kb 167.7kb ``` ---
**Author:** ![weltenwort](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/weltenwort/32/53885_2.png) [@weltenwort](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/weltenwort)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2017, 9:31am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-blank-page-after-deleting-index/80164/5 "2017-03-28T09:31:31Z")
Would it be possible for you to paste both the Kibana server output and the browser console? ---
**Author:** ![spalger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/spalger/32/14092_2.png) [@spalger](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/spalger)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2017, 5:54pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-blank-page-after-deleting-index/80164/6 "2017-03-28T17:54:11Z")
I assume that you've run into this issue: [https://github.com/elastic/kibana/issues/8373](https://github.com/elastic/kibana/issues/8373) I suggest either deleting the index pattern via curl or indexing a single doc that matches the old index pattern so you can delete the index pattern and then delete the new index. ---
**Author:** ![kopacko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/kopacko/32/10733_2.png) [@kopacko](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/kopacko)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:36pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-blank-page-after-deleting-index/80164/7 "2017-03-29T15:36:43Z")
There isnt any server output from Kibana....the page is just white. ---
**Author:** ![kopacko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/kopacko/32/10733_2.png) [@kopacko](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/kopacko)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:37pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-blank-page-after-deleting-index/80164/8 "2017-03-29T15:37:33Z")
Yea, I have a lot of visualizations that I was wanting to keep. That's why I haven't done that yet. Guess I am doing that now. ---
**Author:** ![weltenwort](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/weltenwort/32/53885_2.png) [@weltenwort](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/weltenwort)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-blank-page-after-deleting-index/80164/9 "2017-03-29T21:53:19Z")
Does the browser console print any error? ---
**Author:** ![kopacko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/kopacko/32/10733_2.png) [@kopacko](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/kopacko)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 10:26pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-blank-page-after-deleting-index/80164/10 "2017-03-29T22:26:41Z")
Nope. I have deleted my .kibana index and things seem to be back to semi normal. I am getting some new errors if I leave the Discover page up for extended periods with 5 minute refresh turned on., Wonder if they are 5.3.0 related. ---
**Author:** ![weltenwort](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/weltenwort/32/53885_2.png) [@weltenwort](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/weltenwort)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 9:47am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-blank-page-after-deleting-index/80164/11 "2017-03-30T09:47:33Z")
Would it be possible for you to post these errors here so we can take a look at them? ---
**Author:** ![kopacko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/kopacko/32/10733_2.png) [@kopacko](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/kopacko)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 1:10pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-blank-page-after-deleting-index/80164/12 "2017-03-30T13:10:50Z")
I will grab a screenshot the next time it happens. ---
**Author:** ![kopacko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/kopacko/32/10733_2.png) [@kopacko](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/kopacko)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 1:43pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-blank-page-after-deleting-index/80164/13 "2017-03-30T13:43:55Z")
That didn't take long. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/0/c/0c6e05ba1529c5e687ceaaf4c2b97f0eb638a917.png) ---
**Author:** ![kopacko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/kopacko/32/10733_2.png) [@kopacko](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/kopacko)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 6:48pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-blank-page-after-deleting-index/80164/14 "2017-03-30T18:48:03Z")
The issue still seems to be happening. This is a relatively new thing. Prior to a few weeks ago. All my logs were collected into the same index. Now I am dividing them up into different indexes. Could it be the multiple indexes causing the heartache for Kibana? ---
**Author:** ![weltenwort](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/weltenwort/32/53885_2.png) [@weltenwort](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/weltenwort)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 10:18am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-blank-page-after-deleting-index/80164/15 "2017-03-31T10:18:03Z")
Oh, I did not realize the browser tab was actually crashing. So this looks like an out-of-memory problem in Discover. It's highly unlikely that the multiple indices are the reason. Are the documents you are trying to display particularly big or do they contain fields with large amounts of data? ---
**Author:** ![kopacko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/kopacko/32/10733_2.png) [@kopacko](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/kopacko)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-blank-page-after-deleting-index/80164/16 "2017-03-31T15:12:44Z")
Umm, I am not sure how to answer that. Forgive my ignorance. I did select an individual index logstash-ntwk-\* and it seems to run just fine. All my indexes are built with logstash-name-\*. When I use the default index in Kibana, logstash-\* is where this crash seems to occur after a few minutes. ---
**Author:** ![weltenwort](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/weltenwort/32/53885_2.png) [@weltenwort](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/weltenwort)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 3:47pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-blank-page-after-deleting-index/80164/17 "2017-04-03T15:47:23Z")
Don't worry, it's probably me who should asked a more precise question. 😉 So the fact that it works with a subset of the indices (e.g. `logstash-ntwk-*`) but not with all indices matching `logstash-*` suggests that the result set you're receiving when querying `logstash-*` either hits on a memory leak bug in Kibana or contains large documents. Large documents could either mean - documents with a large number of fields (i.e. thousands) - documents with large amounts of data in at least one field (e.g. a binary blob representing a large file) Can you rule out any of the two options? ---
**Author:** ![kopacko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/kopacko/32/10733_2.png) [@kopacko](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/kopacko)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-blank-page-after-deleting-index/80164/18 "2017-04-03T17:21:17Z")
Gotcha... So, I know for sure, there are not any documents with thousands of fields, individually. But collectively, I think there are about 1400 fields. The biggest documents would be winlogbeat based. So I doubt that it is those. ---
**Author:** ![weltenwort](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/weltenwort/32/53885_2.png) [@weltenwort](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/weltenwort)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 6:26pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-blank-page-after-deleting-index/80164/19 "2017-04-03T18:26:18Z")
Thanks for these details. From your previous comments I gather that you are running the freshly released version 5.3.0? ---
**Author:** ![kopacko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/kopacko/32/10733_2.png) [@kopacko](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/kopacko)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 6:38pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-blank-page-after-deleting-index/80164/20 "2017-04-03T18:38:08Z")
I am. This started happening on 5.2.2 though. [Next page](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-blank-page-after-deleting-index/80164.md?page=2)