# Kibana creates invalid index(.kibana instead of .kibana\_1)
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-creates-invalid-index-kibana-instead-of-kibana-1/217964
**Category:** Kibana
**Created:** [February 5, 2020, 10:41am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-creates-invalid-index-kibana-instead-of-kibana-1/217964 "2020-02-05T10:41:46Z")
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### Author:  [@akshatsharma](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/akshatsharma)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2020, 10:41am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-creates-invalid-index-kibana-instead-of-kibana-1/217964/1 "2020-02-05T10:41:46Z")
Hi,
To validate some scenario, I had to delete .kibana\_1 index. Now I try to access kibana UI and a kibana index named .kibana gets created. After this I am not able to create any new index pattern or view any logs on kibana.
Why this .kibana index is created instead of .kibana\_1? And is there any way to handle this apart from deleting .kibana index and restaring kibana pod?
Best Regards,
Akshat
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### Author:  [@thomasneirynck](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/thomasneirynck)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-creates-invalid-index-kibana-instead-of-kibana-1/217964/2 "2020-02-05T19:44:21Z")
hi @akshatsharma
The `.kibana` index is a system index and shouldn't be deleted manually. I think restarting kibana is the way to go here.
The actual name of the kibana-index is configurable. See `kibana.index` configuration setting for details [https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/kibana/current/settings.html](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/kibana/current/settings.html)
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### Author:  [@akshatsharma](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/akshatsharma)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2020, 5:59am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-creates-invalid-index-kibana-instead-of-kibana-1/217964/3 "2020-02-06T05:59:53Z")
@thomasneirynck
Thanks for your response!
I understand, but in a scenario where all my data(indices) gets deleted, as an end user I will not know this and I will try to access kibana UI. In this case `.kibana` index will get created (instead of `kibana_1`) and I will not be able to do anything on kibana UI because of this.
Also, why is it that this `.kibana` index does not allow us to create or viasualize anything on the UI?
Best Regards,
Akshat
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### Author:  [@akshatsharma](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/akshatsharma)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2020, 9:47am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-creates-invalid-index-kibana-instead-of-kibana-1/217964/4 "2020-02-14T09:47:18Z")
@thomasneirynck
Could you please respond to my previous comment? Kind of stuck with this.
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### Author:  [@akshatsharma](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/akshatsharma)
#### Post date: [February 19, 2020, 6:10am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-creates-invalid-index-kibana-instead-of-kibana-1/217964/5 "2020-02-19T06:10:31Z")
@thomasneirynck
Could you please have a look on the query above? It is kind of urgent for us.
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### Author:  [@akshatsharma](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/akshatsharma)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2020, 12:34pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-creates-invalid-index-kibana-instead-of-kibana-1/217964/6 "2020-03-10T12:34:59Z")
@thomasneirynck
Could you please have a look on my previous comment?
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### Author:  [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [April 7, 2020, 12:35pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-creates-invalid-index-kibana-instead-of-kibana-1/217964/7 "2020-04-07T12:35:10Z")
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