# Kibana ECK users

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-eck-users/321480>\
**Category:** Elastic Cloud on Kubernetes (ECK)\
**Tags:** docker\
**Created:** [December 18, 2022, 7:15am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-eck-users/321480 "2022-12-18T07:15:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![khteh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/khteh/32/147573_2.png) [@khteh](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/khteh)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 7:15am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-eck-users/321480/1 "2022-12-18T07:15:25Z")

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How to define users in Kibana ECK manifests? I don't / haven't found any doc.

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**Author:** ![legoguy1000](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/legoguy1000/32/54301_2.png) [@legoguy1000](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/legoguy1000)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2022, 3:43am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-eck-users/321480/2 "2022-12-28T03:43:33Z")

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Users do not exist within Kibana. They exist in Elasticsearch so you'd have to use the API or file realm when setting up Elastic.

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**Author:** ![khteh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/khteh/32/147573_2.png) [@khteh](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/khteh)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2022, 5:08am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-eck-users/321480/3 "2022-12-28T05:08:00Z")

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I use

```auto
  auth:
    fileRealm:
      - secretName: elasticsearch-secret

```

but bump into the following error after logging in:

## You do not have permission to access the requested page

Either go back to the previous page or log in as a different user.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 5:08am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-eck-users/321480/4 "2023-01-25T05:08:42Z")

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