# Kibana "force" and "bettermap" panels not working **URL:** \ **Category:** Elasticsearch\ **Created:** [December 9, 2014, 7:18pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-force-and-bettermap-panels-not-working/21169 "2014-12-09T19:18:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 2\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jack\_Judge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/jack_judge/32/85499_2.png) [@Jack\_Judge](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Jack_Judge)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 7:18pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-force-and-bettermap-panels-not-working/21169/1 "2014-12-09T19:18:07Z")
I couldn't find a better group for kibana type queries... I can't get "force" and "bettermap" panels to work with either K3 or K4. With K4 the Save button is grayed out whenever I try to add them. It's the same story trying to add a force panel to K3. I can add a bettermap panel with K3 but it never gets populated. I'm not really arsed about that last point it's just an FYI, it's the "force" panels not working that's the real problem. Anyone seen anything similar ? Thanks, JJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/c3c7cfb9-e828-43c3-8405-a2ec2e90391a%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/c3c7cfb9-e828-43c3-8405-a2ec2e90391a%40googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 12:44am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-force-and-bettermap-panels-not-working/21169/2 "2017-07-06T00:44:40Z")
Closed on July 6, 2017, 12:44am UTC