# Kibana hangs on creating first index pattern
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-hangs-on-creating-first-index-pattern/173595
**Category:** Kibana
**Created:** [March 23, 2019, 11:28am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-hangs-on-creating-first-index-pattern/173595 "2019-03-23T11:28:38Z")
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### Author:  [@David9](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/David9)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2019, 11:28am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-hangs-on-creating-first-index-pattern/173595/1 "2019-03-23T11:28:38Z")
ES version 6.6.1 Kibana version 6.6.1
Fresh install on a Mac, trying to create a new index pattern and Kibana hangs. No errors in terminal for ES or Kibana. I see a bunch of posts here about this, and recommendation to see errors in web console, but i've never seen any logging in my kibana dev tools console, I must be misunderstanding what console is being referred to.
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### Author:  [@John\_Hampton](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/John_Hampton)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2019, 11:06pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-hangs-on-creating-first-index-pattern/173595/2 "2019-03-23T23:06:23Z")
Hello David. Depending on your previous use with ELK & Kibana. The following may help...
**Things to check:**
- That you have [ingested data](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/kibana/current/tutorial-load-dataset.html)
- [That indices have been created in Elasticsearch](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/kibana/current/tutorial-define-index.html)
" When you define an index pattern, the indices that match that pattern must exist in Elasticsearch and they must contain data. To check which indices are available, go to **Dev Tools Console** and enter `GET _cat/indices` . Alternately, use `curl -XGET "http://localhost:9200/_cat/indices"` ."
If using a Beat to provide data to your instance...
- Check Elasticsearch output is set correctly & that auto template loading is enabled
( setup.template.enabled: true ).
[Ex. Packetbeat - Step 3: Load the index template in Elasticsearch](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/beats/packetbeat/current/packetbeat-template.html)
- If not using Elasticsearch output (ex. Logstash) the template needs loaded manually (same link above).
You sound like you are in the correct place for the Kibana Dev Tools - Console. You'll just need to determine what you want to look for and the run the queries to get the results & errors.
I'd recommend the one from the quote above to see if you have any indices to create an index from.
`GET _cat/indices`
Without more specifics those are some common complications found with a fresh install.
Mac specific I will be able to provide little.
Regards,
John
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### Author:  [@David9](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/David9)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-hangs-on-creating-first-index-pattern/173595/3 "2019-03-25T18:58:22Z")
Thanks, yes i should have stated that i have indexes with data, and they show up in the create index list. i recall i can name my index pattern 'foo' if i have an index named 'foo', correct?
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### Author:  [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [April 22, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-hangs-on-creating-first-index-pattern/173595/4 "2019-04-22T18:58:32Z")
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