# .kibana index not found
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-index-not-found/135468
**Category:** Kibana
**Created:** [June 12, 2018, 6:56am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-index-not-found/135468 "2018-06-12T06:56:10Z")
**Posts on this page:** 5
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### Author:  [@ajit](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/ajit)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2018, 6:56am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-index-not-found/135468/1 "2018-06-12T06:56:10Z")
Hi,
I have used readonlyrest for security for elasticsearch and kibana. But getting .kibana index not found exception. Please provide solution.
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### Author:  [@timroes](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/timroes)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2018, 6:57am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-index-not-found/135468/2 "2018-06-12T06:57:28Z")
Hey, you will need to give the Kibana user you use to connect to Elasticsearch write permissions for the `.kibana` index, since Kibana otherwise can't write into that index (i.e. not even create it).
Cheers,
Tim
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### Author:  [@ajit](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/ajit)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2018, 2:01pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-index-not-found/135468/3 "2018-06-12T14:01:03Z")
Hi,
At the time of start up of elasticsearch and kibana it should be automatically created. But I don't have .kibana index in elasticseach. Why index not created ?
Please provide solution on it.
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### Author:  [@timroes](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/timroes)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2018, 2:09pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-index-not-found/135468/4 "2018-06-12T14:09:36Z")
Does the user you have written in the `kibana.yml` actually have write access to Elasticsearch?
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### Author:  [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2018, 2:11pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-index-not-found/135468/5 "2018-07-10T14:11:32Z")
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