# Kibana isn't seeing/loading indexes after upgrade
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-isnt-seeing-loading-indexes-after-upgrade/115922
**Category:** Kibana
**Created:** [January 17, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-isnt-seeing-loading-indexes-after-upgrade/115922 "2018-01-17T16:20:12Z")
**Posts on this page:** 18
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### Author:  [@Jeremy\_C](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Jeremy_C)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-isnt-seeing-loading-indexes-after-upgrade/115922/1 "2018-01-17T16:20:12Z")
Upgraded from 5.6.2 to 6.1.2. I did the manual kibana re-indexing so now I have a ".kibana-6" index. I verified it exists with \_cat/indices.
When I go to Kibana it shows no indexes. Since I know the .kibana-6 index exists, I set my kibana.yml to use that. I can easily add my indexes (logstash-_, winlogbeat-_, etc) but my concern is all my visualizations and dashboards. Any way to recover them?
Should I go ahead and add my indexes and hope all my visualizations show up?
Thanks
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### Author:  [@chrisronline](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/chrisronline)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-isnt-seeing-loading-indexes-after-upgrade/115922/2 "2018-01-17T19:51:17Z")
Hi @Jeremy_C,
What do you mean when you say
> [@Jeremy\_C](#):
>
> When I go to Kibana it shows no indexes
Where in Kibana are you expecting to see the `.kibana` index?
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### Author:  [@Jeremy\_C](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Jeremy_C)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-isnt-seeing-loading-indexes-after-upgrade/115922/3 "2018-01-17T20:07:55Z")
Sorry if my post was confusing. Kibana says there is no default index. It prompts me to add indexes but when I try to add logstash-\* it fails. I don't mind if I need to add logstash-_, winlogbeat-_, etc but I won't be very happy if my visualizations are all gone.
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### Author:  [@chrisronline](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/chrisronline)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2018, 8:09pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-isnt-seeing-loading-indexes-after-upgrade/115922/4 "2018-01-17T20:09:00Z")
Gotcha.
Can you post the results of this?
`GET .kibana/_mappings`
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### Author:  [@Jeremy\_C](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Jeremy_C)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2018, 8:31pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-isnt-seeing-loading-indexes-after-upgrade/115922/5 "2018-01-17T20:31:36Z")
{
".kibana-6": {
"mappings": {
"doc": {
"properties": {
"config": {
"properties": {
"buildNum": {
"type": "keyword"
}
}
},
"dashboard": {
"properties": {
"description": {
"type": "text"
},
"hits": {
"type": "integer"
},
"kibanaSavedObjectMeta": {
"properties": {
"searchSourceJSON": {
"type": "text"
}
}
},
"optionsJSON": {
"type": "text"
},
"panelsJSON": {
"type": "text"
},
"refreshInterval": {
"properties": {
"display": {
"type": "keyword"
},
"pause": {
"type": "boolean"
},
"section": {
"type": "integer"
},
"value": {
"type": "integer"
}
}
},
"timeFrom": {
"type": "keyword"
},
"timeRestore": {
"type": "boolean"
},
"timeTo": {
"type": "keyword"
},
"title": {
"type": "text"
},
"uiStateJSON": {
"type": "text"
},
"version": {
"type": "integer"
}
}
},
"graph-workspace": {
"properties": {
"description": {
"type": "text"
},
"kibanaSavedObjectMeta": {
"properties": {
"searchSourceJSON": {
"type": "text"
}
}
},
"numLinks": {
"type": "integer"
},
"numVertices": {
"type": "integer"
},
"title": {
"type": "text"
},
"version": {
"type": "integer"
},
"wsState": {
"type": "text"
}
}
},
"index-pattern": {
"properties": {
"fieldFormatMap": {
"type": "text"
},
"fields": {
"type": "text"
},
"intervalName": {
"type": "keyword"
},
"notExpandable": {
"type": "boolean"
},
"sourceFilters": {
"type": "text"
},
"timeFieldName": {
"type": "keyword"
},
"title": {
"type": "text"
}
}
},
"search": {
"properties": {
"columns": {
"type": "keyword"
},
"description": {
"type": "text"
},
"hits": {
"type": "integer"
},
"kibanaSavedObjectMeta": {
"properties": {
"searchSourceJSON": {
"type": "text"
}
}
},
"sort": {
"type": "keyword"
},
"title": {
"type": "text"
},
"version": {
"type": "integer"
}
}
},
"server": {
"properties": {
"uuid": {
"type": "keyword"
}
}
},
"timelion-sheet": {
"properties": {
"description": {
"type": "text"
},
"hits": {
"type": "integer"
},
"kibanaSavedObjectMeta": {
"properties": {
"searchSourceJSON": {
"type": "text"
}
}
},
"timelion\_chart\_height": {
"type": "integer"
},
"timelion\_columns": {
"type": "integer"
},
"timelion\_interval": {
"type": "keyword"
},
"timelion\_other\_interval": {
"type": "keyword"
},
"timelion\_rows": {
"type": "integer"
},
"timelion\_sheet": {
"type": "text"
},
"title": {
"type": "text"
},
"version": {
"type": "integer"
}
}
},
"type": {
"type": "keyword"
},
"updated\_at": {
"type": "date"
},
"url": {
"properties": {
"accessCount": {
"type": "long"
},
"accessDate": {
"type": "date"
},
"createDate": {
"type": "date"
},
"url": {
"type": "text",
"fields": {
"keyword": {
"type": "keyword",
"ignore\_above": 2048
}
}
}
}
},
"visualization": {
"properties": {
"description": {
"type": "text"
},
"kibanaSavedObjectMeta": {
"properties": {
"searchSourceJSON": {
"type": "text"
}
}
},
"savedSearchId": {
"type": "keyword"
},
"title": {
"type": "text"
},
"uiStateJSON": {
"type": "text"
},
"version": {
"type": "integer"
},
"visState": {
"type": "text"
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
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### Author:  [@chrisronline](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/chrisronline)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-isnt-seeing-loading-indexes-after-upgrade/115922/6 "2018-01-17T20:38:41Z")
Can you paste the result of this query?
```auto
POST .kibana/_search
{
"query": {
"term": {
"type": {
"value": "index-pattern"
}
}
}
}
```
If that returns nothing, can you do this query instead?
```auto
POST .kibana/_search
```
Thanks,
Chris
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### Author:  [@Jeremy\_C](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Jeremy_C)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-isnt-seeing-loading-indexes-after-upgrade/115922/7 "2018-01-17T20:40:14Z")
{
"took": 16,
"timed\_out": false,
"\_shards": {
"total": 1,
"successful": 1,
"skipped": 0,
"failed": 0
},
"hits": {
"total": 1,
"max\_score": 0.105360515,
"hits": [
{
"\_index": ".kibana-6",
"\_type": "doc",
"\_id": "index-pattern:8fdc5250-fbb6-11e7-817e-55baff81899e",
"\_score": 0.105360515,
"\_source": {
"type": "index-pattern",
"updated\_at": "2018-01-17T18:45:17.428Z",
"index-pattern": {
"title": "logstash-\*",
"timeFieldName": "@timestamp"
}
}
}
]
}
}
---
### Author:  [@chrisronline](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/chrisronline)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-isnt-seeing-loading-indexes-after-upgrade/115922/8 "2018-01-17T20:41:44Z")
Do these return anything?
```auto
POST .kibana/_search
{
"query": {
"term": {
"type": {
"value": "visualization"
}
}
}
}
```
```auto
POST .kibana/_search
{
"query": {
"term": {
"type": {
"value": "dashboard"
}
}
}
}
```
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### Author:  [@Jeremy\_C](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Jeremy_C)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-isnt-seeing-loading-indexes-after-upgrade/115922/9 "2018-01-17T20:46:53Z")
visualization:
> ```
> {
> "took": 31,
> "timed_out": false,
> "_shards": {
> "total": 1,
> "successful": 1,
> "skipped": 0,
> "failed": 0
> },
> "hits": {
> "total": 0,
> "max_score": null,
> "hits": []
> }
> }
>
> ```
dashboard:
> ```
> {
> "took": 6,
> "timed_out": false,
> "_shards": {
> "total": 1,
> "successful": 1,
> "skipped": 0,
> "failed": 0
> },
> "hits": {
> "total": 0,
> "max_score": null,
> "hits": []
> }
> }
>
> ```
I'm guessing that means they're gone.
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### Author:  [@chrisronline](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/chrisronline)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2018, 8:47pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-isnt-seeing-loading-indexes-after-upgrade/115922/10 "2018-01-17T20:47:25Z")
> [@Jeremy\_C](#):
>
> Upgraded from 5.6.2 to 6.1.2. I did the manual kibana
How did you do this exactly?
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### Author:  [@Jeremy\_C](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Jeremy_C)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-isnt-seeing-loading-indexes-after-upgrade/115922/11 "2018-01-17T20:48:29Z")
[https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/kibana/current/migrating-6.0-index.html](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/kibana/current/migrating-6.0-index.html)
I'll admit that there is definitely the possibility that I bungled it up.
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### Author:  [@chrisronline](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/chrisronline)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-isnt-seeing-loading-indexes-after-upgrade/115922/12 "2018-01-17T20:52:00Z")
If you do:
```auto
GET _cat/indices
```
Do you see any other kibana indices?
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### Author:  [@Jeremy\_C](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Jeremy_C)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-isnt-seeing-loading-indexes-after-upgrade/115922/13 "2018-01-17T20:54:22Z")
Only ".kibana-6" and a handful of ".monitoring-kibana-6-yyyy.mm.dd".
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### Author:  [@chrisronline](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/chrisronline)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2018, 9:10pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-isnt-seeing-loading-indexes-after-upgrade/115922/14 "2018-01-17T21:10:25Z")
Yea they definitely aren't there. Do you happen to have any backups? That might be your only option besides recreating them.
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### Author:  [@Jeremy\_C](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Jeremy_C)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2018, 9:35pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-isnt-seeing-loading-indexes-after-upgrade/115922/15 "2018-01-17T21:35:54Z")
Yeah, I have everything on tape. I'll just restore back to before.
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### Author:  [@Jeremy\_C](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Jeremy_C)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-isnt-seeing-loading-indexes-after-upgrade/115922/16 "2018-01-17T21:36:16Z")
Thank you for all your help. It is appreciated!
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### Author:  [@chrisronline](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/chrisronline)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-isnt-seeing-loading-indexes-after-upgrade/115922/17 "2018-01-17T21:37:42Z")
Np. Sorry for the inconvenience. Try the upgrade again and lemme know if you have the same issue.
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### Author:  [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-isnt-seeing-loading-indexes-after-upgrade/115922/18 "2018-02-14T21:38:11Z")
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