# Kibana Management missing Role Management **URL:** \ **Category:** Kibana\ **Created:** [December 21, 2017, 6:58pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-management-missing-role-management/112878 "2017-12-21T18:58:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![neil\_sm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/neil_sm/32/7563_2.png) [@neil\_sm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/neil_sm)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 6:58pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-management-missing-role-management/112878/1 "2017-12-21T18:58:15Z")
Hello. In the current [X-Pack documentation](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/x-pack/current/defining-roles.html) it says can manage roles and users in kibana: > Role Management UI > If you are a Kibana user, make sure to install X-Pack in Kibana. This enables you to easily manage users and roles from within Kibana. To manage roles, log in to Kibana and go to Management / Elasticsearch / Roles. But when I go to management, the only options I have are for Kibana: Index Patterns, Saved Objects, Advanced Settings Is there a plugin I need to install or a missing configuration or something? I have X-Pack installed for Kibana and Elasticsearch. ---
**Author:** ![Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/christian_dahlqvist/32/4617_2.png) [@Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Christian_Dahlqvist)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 7:29pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-management-missing-role-management/112878/2 "2017-12-21T19:29:36Z")
What type of license do you have installed? ---
**Author:** ![neil\_sm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/neil_sm/32/7563_2.png) [@neil\_sm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/neil_sm)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 8:12pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-management-missing-role-management/112878/3 "2017-12-21T20:12:59Z")
Just the Basic License ---
**Author:** ![neil\_sm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/neil_sm/32/7563_2.png) [@neil\_sm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/neil_sm)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 8:42pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-management-missing-role-management/112878/4 "2017-12-21T20:42:42Z")
OK, I've found the part where I need to generate a trial license. But for some reason it says I'm ineligible to do this even though I've only had this installed one day and have installed the basic license. [https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/x-pack/current/generated-license.html](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/x-pack/current/generated-license.html) ---
**Author:** ![neil\_sm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/neil_sm/32/7563_2.png) [@neil\_sm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/neil_sm)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 6:54pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-management-missing-role-management/112878/5 "2017-12-22T18:54:41Z")
I got the trial license issue fixed from support. Although I'm still seeing the same behavior in Kibana on the management screen. Are those management features not available on the Trial license? ---
**Author:** ![Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/christian_dahlqvist/32/4617_2.png) [@Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Christian_Dahlqvist)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 11:06pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-management-missing-role-management/112878/6 "2017-12-22T23:06:59Z")
A trial license should give you access to all features. ---
**Author:** ![neil\_sm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/neil_sm/32/7563_2.png) [@neil\_sm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/neil_sm)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 11:35pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-management-missing-role-management/112878/7 "2017-12-22T23:35:27Z")
Ok, so then I’m still at my original question. How do I access the Role Management UI in kibana? ---
**Author:** ![Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/christian_dahlqvist/32/4617_2.png) [@Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Christian_Dahlqvist)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 7:55am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-management-missing-role-management/112878/8 "2017-12-23T07:55:51Z")
If you have [verified that the current license is a valid trial license](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/x-pack/current/listing-licenses.html) and [have installed the X-Pack plugin in Kibana](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/kibana/current/installing-xpack-kb.html) (including restart), I would verify that you have also [installed X-Pack on Elasticsearch](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/6.1/installing-xpack-es.html) and [that security is enabled in the Elasticsearch config](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/x-pack/current/xpack-security.html). If all of that is OK after a full restart, I am not sure what else could be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 7:56am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-management-missing-role-management/112878/9 "2018-01-20T07:56:10Z")
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