# Kibana - same old ... (logging.dest broken, /etc/systemd vs. /usr/lib/systemd, etc

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-same-old-logging-dest-broken-etc-systemd-vs-usr-lib-systemd-etc/356703>\
**Category:** Kibana\
**Created:** [April 3, 2024, 3:57pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-same-old-logging-dest-broken-etc-systemd-vs-usr-lib-systemd-etc/356703 "2024-04-03T15:57:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Joe\_J](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/joe_j/32/40696_2.png) [@Joe\_J](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Joe_J)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 3:57pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-same-old-logging-dest-broken-etc-systemd-vs-usr-lib-systemd-etc/356703/1 "2024-04-03T15:57:05Z")

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steps:

- point repo to elastic 8.x
- apt install kibana/stable 8.13.1 amd64
- sudo to enroll to elastic-- seems to work ok
- ... seems like no config/ dir, mkdir + chown ... odd
- try again -- complaints about [logging].dest - errs out
- 1 day of searching, trying, fixing - reinstalling, etc.

Same issue as posted in these forums from years ago:  
== Kibana remove/upgrade does not remove the old, WRONG kibana.service file from /etc/system

WTF?

Hope this helps someone -- remove or move /etc/systemd..../kibana.service to .disabled.

startup up (apparently) fine now. Someone please fix this old, long-lived silliness

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 3:57pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-same-old-logging-dest-broken-etc-systemd-vs-usr-lib-systemd-etc/356703/2 "2024-05-01T15:57:45Z")

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