# Kibana Security without enabling security on elasticsearch

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-security-without-enabling-security-on-elasticsearch/335820>\
**Category:** Kibana\
**Tags:** elastic-stack-security, kibana-plugin-development\
**Created:** [June 13, 2023, 4:37am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-security-without-enabling-security-on-elasticsearch/335820 "2023-06-13T04:37:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![manikanta](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/manikanta/32/113426_2.png) [@manikanta](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/manikanta)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 4:37am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-security-without-enabling-security-on-elasticsearch/335820/1 "2023-06-13T04:37:40Z")

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Hi, I want to know is there any possible way of enabling security on kibana without enabling security on elasticsearch?

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**Author:** ![warkolm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/warkolm/32/39224_2.png) [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 4:44am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-security-without-enabling-security-on-elasticsearch/335820/2 "2023-06-13T04:44:36Z")

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Nope, it's a both or nothing thing

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**Author:** ![manikanta](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/manikanta/32/113426_2.png) [@manikanta](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/manikanta)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 9:32am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-security-without-enabling-security-on-elasticsearch/335820/3 "2023-06-13T09:32:32Z")

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@warkolm Is there any possibility to provide just login with google and providing roles in kibana only?

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**Author:** ![warkolm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/warkolm/32/39224_2.png) [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 10:16am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-security-without-enabling-security-on-elasticsearch/335820/4 "2023-06-13T10:16:25Z")

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Elasticsearch is the core authentication provider, so nope.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 10:16am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-security-without-enabling-security-on-elasticsearch/335820/5 "2023-07-11T10:16:36Z")

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