# Kibana Stack Managent Built-In Alerts Missing **URL:** \ **Category:** Kibana\ **Tags:** elastic-stack-alerting\ **Created:** [July 30, 2021, 2:37pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-stack-managent-built-in-alerts-missing/280088 "2021-07-30T14:37:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MakoWish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e56c9b/32.png) [@MakoWish](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/MakoWish)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 2:37pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-stack-managent-built-in-alerts-missing/280088/1 "2021-07-30T14:37:44Z")
We are in the process of migrating to a new cluster, and I noticed on the new cluster that Stack Monitoring in Kibana is missing the default alert rules in the Space I would like to configure Actions for them. I do see the rules/alerts in the Default Space, but they are not available in the Space I want them to be. Per [Kibana alerts](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/kibana/current/kibana-alerts.html "Link to documentation on Kibana Alerts for Stack Monitoring")... `To review and modify all available rules, use Enter setup mode on the Cluster overview page in Stack Monitoring` When I enter setup mode, I only see `Metricbeat monitoring`, but no bell with the number of available alerts. Is there a way to re-create the alert rules in Stack Management of Kibana for a particular space? Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Marius\_Dragomir](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/marius_dragomir/32/42087_2.png) [@Marius\_Dragomir](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Marius_Dragomir)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2021, 6:46pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-stack-managent-built-in-alerts-missing/280088/2 "2021-08-03T18:46:27Z")
There is a modal dialog that shows up when you enter the Monitoring app that asks you to install the alerts. It looks something like this: ![monitoring app - stack functional integration - suite before all hook for should have Monitoring already enabled](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/b/0/b0cf4f6731876e96e28a41303a886723a4f18dbc.png) ---
**Author:** ![MakoWish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e56c9b/32.png) [@MakoWish](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/MakoWish)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2021, 8:01pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-stack-managent-built-in-alerts-missing/280088/3 "2021-08-03T20:01:23Z")
Hi @Marius_Dragomir, Thank you for the response. Unfortunately, I have never seen that before. Is there any way to trigger that prompt again? ---
**Author:** ![Marius\_Dragomir](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/marius_dragomir/32/42087_2.png) [@Marius\_Dragomir](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Marius_Dragomir)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 10:03am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-stack-managent-built-in-alerts-missing/280088/4 "2021-08-04T10:03:05Z")
What version are you on, since it's been added rather recently? ---
**Author:** ![MakoWish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e56c9b/32.png) [@MakoWish](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/MakoWish)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 1:58pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-stack-managent-built-in-alerts-missing/280088/5 "2021-08-04T13:58:03Z")
We are on 7.13.1. ---
**Author:** ![MakoWish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e56c9b/32.png) [@MakoWish](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/MakoWish)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-stack-managent-built-in-alerts-missing/280088/6 "2021-08-19T17:02:37Z")
I was able to open a ticket and got an answer on this. Even though our legacy cluster is now 7.14.0, it was originally started as v7.5.0, and the Stack Monitoring rules were allowed in multiple spaces back then. I was informed this changed in 7.13.0, and these rules are now only allowed in the `Default` space by default. There is a new setting for `kibana.yml` to allow additional spaces to have these detection rules: ```auto monitoring.cluster_alerts.allowedSpaces: ["default","my_cool_space"] ``` This did allow me to create the rules in the space we desire them to be. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-stack-managent-built-in-alerts-missing/280088/7 "2021-09-16T17:02:58Z")
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