# Kibana still shows the hidden indices even with Include hidden indices set to off

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-still-shows-the-hidden-indices-even-with-include-hidden-indices-set-to-off/387310>\
**Category:** Kibana\
**Created:** [June 25, 2026, 9:35am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-still-shows-the-hidden-indices-even-with-include-hidden-indices-set-to-off/387310 "2026-06-25T09:35:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![alifiroozi80](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/alifiroozi80/32/147720_2.png) [@alifiroozi80](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/alifiroozi80)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2026, 9:35am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-still-shows-the-hidden-indices-even-with-include-hidden-indices-set-to-off/387310/1 "2026-06-25T09:35:11Z")

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Hello everyone

Even with Include hidden indices set to off, I can still see the `.` indices (belongs to xpack) in Kibana. How can I disable them so they don't show in Kibana?

version: `9.4.2`

 ![Screenshot 2026-06-25 at 12.59.59 PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/c/8/c859cddc9e467d34d80fd104b525a21809f17b47.png)

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**Author:** ![leandrojmp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/leandrojmp/32/107231_2.png) [@leandrojmp](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/leandrojmp)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2026, 12:53pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-still-shows-the-hidden-indices-even-with-include-hidden-indices-set-to-off/387310/2 "2026-06-25T12:53:18Z")

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Hello and welcome,

Those are just system indices, not all system indices will be hidden.

These are not, they do not have the setting `index.hidden: true`

You would need to edit their seetings and add the line `"index.hidden": true` for them to be hidden in the index management interface.

To make this permanent for new indices, you would need to edit the respective `.monitoring-*` index template and add that option.

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**Author:** ![alifiroozi80](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/alifiroozi80/32/147720_2.png) [@alifiroozi80](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/alifiroozi80)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2026, 7:25am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-still-shows-the-hidden-indices-even-with-include-hidden-indices-set-to-off/387310/3 "2026-06-26T07:25:34Z")

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Thank you very much!  
Though seems there is no index template for the `.minitoring-*` indexes...

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**Author:** ![leandrojmp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/leandrojmp/32/107231_2.png) [@leandrojmp](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/leandrojmp)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2026, 1:15pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-still-shows-the-hidden-indices-even-with-include-hidden-indices-set-to-off/387310/4 "2026-06-26T13:15:35Z")

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There is, but they are deprecated and may be hidden.

Did you select all of these?

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/e/c/ec57724048080f754d9773f9cd3c07419b350be7.png)

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**Author:** ![alifiroozi80](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/alifiroozi80/32/147720_2.png) [@alifiroozi80](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/alifiroozi80)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2026, 7:29am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-still-shows-the-hidden-indices-even-with-include-hidden-indices-set-to-off/387310/5 "2026-06-27T07:29:18Z")

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Thank you very much!

For future googlers: turn on "system templates" and scroll to the bottom. You will see then this:

 ![Screenshot 2026-06-27 at 10.58.54 AM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/9/d/9d199aac875df44021ec77f91f5c6bd4659d4786.png)