# Kibana.yml elasticsearch.username: kibana\_system or elastic

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-yml-elasticsearch-username-kibana-system-or-elastic/271517>\
**Category:** Kibana\
**Tags:** elastic-stack-security\
**Created:** [April 28, 2021, 1:14pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-yml-elasticsearch-username-kibana-system-or-elastic/271517 "2021-04-28T13:14:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![m\_x](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/m_x/32/86703_2.png) [@m\_x](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/m_x)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 1:14pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-yml-elasticsearch-username-kibana-system-or-elastic/271517/1 "2021-04-28T13:14:26Z")

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Hi,

Doc [here](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/security-minimal-setup.html#add-built-in-users) says to use the 'elastic' user in kibana.yml whereas the default configuration and [this doc](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/kibana/current/using-kibana-with-security.html) say to use 'kibana\_system' user.

Which one should I use ?

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**Author:** ![RLPowellJr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/rlpowelljr/32/97049_2.png) [@RLPowellJr](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/RLPowellJr)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 1:56pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-yml-elasticsearch-username-kibana-system-or-elastic/271517/2 "2021-04-28T13:56:50Z")

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I've used "kibana" and "elastic"

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**Author:** ![m\_x](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/m_x/32/86703_2.png) [@m\_x](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/m_x)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 2:17pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-yml-elasticsearch-username-kibana-system-or-elastic/271517/3 "2021-04-28T14:17:39Z")

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User "kibana" seems to be replaced by "kibana\_system". I found this : [https://github.com/elastic/kibana/issues/25879](https://github.com/elastic/kibana/issues/25879).

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**Author:** ![TimV](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/timv/32/13162_2.png) [@TimV](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/TimV)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 1:21am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-yml-elasticsearch-username-kibana-system-or-elastic/271517/4 "2021-04-29T01:21:02Z")

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It should be `kibana_system`. I'll get the incorrect doc updated.

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**Author:** ![AdamWritesDocs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/adamwritesdocs/32/88193_2.png) [@AdamWritesDocs](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/AdamWritesDocs)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 2:53pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-yml-elasticsearch-username-kibana-system-or-elastic/271517/5 "2021-04-29T14:53:21Z")

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Thanks @TimV -- the documentation is now updated to reflect the `kibana_system` user: [Set up minimal security for Elasticsearch | Elasticsearch Guide [7.12] | Elastic](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/security-minimal-setup.html#add-built-in-users)

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 2:53pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-yml-elasticsearch-username-kibana-system-or-elastic/271517/6 "2021-05-27T14:53:25Z")

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