# L32sv2 vs DS5v2 on Azure **URL:** \ **Category:** Elasticsearch\ **Created:** [June 25, 2021, 3:28pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/l32sv2-vs-ds5v2-on-azure/277083 "2021-06-25T15:28:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![porscheme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dfb087/32.png) [@porscheme](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/porscheme)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 3:28pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/l32sv2-vs-ds5v2-on-azure/277083/1 "2021-06-25T15:28:09Z")
For deploying huge Elasticsearch which Azure VM SKU is better? DS5v2 – Intel Xeon processor RAM: 56 GB vCPU(s): 16 Managed Disk: Premium SSD L32s v2: AMD EPYC 7551 processor RAM: 256 GB vCPU(s): 32 Local NVMe premium SSD disks attached to VMs (ephemeral) By default, I was assuming we’d have to use managed disks as we couldn’t rely on the local temporary storage. That could get blown up at any time. Attached managed storage seems to be the way most people talk about supporting this scenario online. The Lsv2-series has both temporary storage and NVMe disk. The spec sheet for it talks about it being ideal for “Big Data, SQL, and NoSQL databases.”. Which seems to fit our problem space. We wanted to know if anyone tried Lsv2-series? ---
**Author:** ![stephenb](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/stephenb/32/40856_2.png) [@stephenb](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/stephenb)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 12:46am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/l32sv2-vs-ds5v2-on-azure/277083/2 "2021-06-26T00:46:12Z")
We run Elastic Cloud Hot HighIO nodes on Azure on lsv2 see [here](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/cloud/current/ec-default-provider-configurations.html) For a single node you would probably use the following. Standard\_L8s\_v2 8 vCPU 64 GB RAM If you were going to virtualize you could use larger and then containerize. ---
**Author:** ![porscheme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dfb087/32.png) [@porscheme](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/porscheme)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/l32sv2-vs-ds5v2-on-azure/277083/3 "2021-06-28T17:13:03Z")
Thanks @stephenb for the reply. - Can you provide more detail here why Lsv2, since Local NVMe disks are ephemeral? - How do you handled reboots or planned maintenance - Hardware failures - widespread outage ---
**Author:** ![stephenb](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/stephenb/32/40856_2.png) [@stephenb](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/stephenb)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/l32sv2-vs-ds5v2-on-azure/277083/4 "2021-06-28T17:50:45Z")
Hi @porscheme Perhaps you should learn a bit more about Elasticsearch which is a distributed, resilient data store in its own, with replicated data etc.. and automated snapshots, it is highly resilient by design. Elastic Cloud runs 20K+ cluster for some of the largest customers in the world. > **[Elastic Cloud: Hosted Elasticsearch, Hosted Search | Elastic](https://www.elastic.co/cloud/)** > > Elastic Cloud is a family of Elasticsearch SaaS offerings — including hosted Elasticsearch, hosted app search, and hosted site search — that make it easy to deploy, operate, and scale Elastic products and solutions in the cloud. This is a hosted platform most of those details are "Under the covers" ... we have full automation so all those things, HW failures, maintenance etc. Our SRE team takes care of all that. and we constantly are evaluating the best HW and Configurations to optimize cost and performance for our cloud customers. This is the whole point of Elastic Cloud ... we do take care Take a look at this it is the shared responsibility matrix. > **[The benefits of a managed Elasticsearch offering](https://www.elastic.co/cloud/shared-responsibility)** Also looks like you are Azure Based and we just released and even deeper integration there > **[What’s new in Elastic Cloud for 7.13: Microsoft Azure portal integration,...](https://www.elastic.co/blog/whats-new-elastic-cloud-7-13-0)** > > Elastic Cloud is excited to introduce the latest integration in the ongoing partnership with Microsoft as well as Azure Private Link available in private beta. Plus, store more data with frozen tier. If you are concerned about Major Cloud provided outages like a whole region going down, you can chose to run in multiple regions with Cross Cluster Replication. All that said... if you want you can run it yourself you certainly can! ---
**Author:** ![porscheme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dfb087/32.png) [@porscheme](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/porscheme)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 3:11am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/l32sv2-vs-ds5v2-on-azure/277083/5 "2021-06-29T03:11:07Z")
Details are missing...all sales pitch. Anyways, what is your compliance story? ---
**Author:** ![stephenb](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/stephenb/32/40856_2.png) [@stephenb](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/stephenb)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 3:36am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/l32sv2-vs-ds5v2-on-azure/277083/6 "2021-06-29T03:36:37Z")
Perhaps someone else is better suited to help you like @warkolm - Can you provide more detail here why Lsv2, since Local NVMe disks are ephemeral? Elasticsearch is designed to be highly distributed high speed data store at scale. Local disk with primaries and replicas stored on different nodes (across AZs) + snapshot provide HA and the data, node and cluster level while providing the best performance. That is why we recommend local disk / SSD. You can certainly run on attached / managed storage but in general you will not get the same performance, but you certainly can. Elastic Cloud runs 1000s of high performant resilient clusters, all run on local SSD / Disk (with the exception of the new Frozen data tied that is backed by S3, cache is local SSD) Security and compliance. > **[Elastic Security and Compliance](https://www.elastic.co/security-and-compliance)** > > Elastic’s hosted and self-managed products are built with security in mind and include features engineered to keep customer information safe. Learn how Elastic products both meet and help ensure compliance with data protection laws and regulations. ---
**Author:** ![Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/christian_dahlqvist/32/4617_2.png) [@Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Christian_Dahlqvist)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 6:31am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/l32sv2-vs-ds5v2-on-azure/277083/7 "2021-06-29T06:31:15Z")
You have not provided information about the use case ,the expected data volumes or the amount of traffic the cluster would need to support and without that it is hard to recommend hardware. It would help if you could provide some additional details and context. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 6:31am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/l32sv2-vs-ds5v2-on-azure/277083/8 "2021-07-27T06:31:42Z")
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