# LS 6.4.0 sincedb with converted records despite started empty **URL:** \ **Category:** Logstash\ **Created:** [October 5, 2018, 4:39pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/ls-6-4-0-sincedb-with-converted-records-despite-started-empty/151248 "2018-10-05T16:39:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 2\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![makibroshett](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/makibroshett/32/106322_2.png) [@makibroshett](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/makibroshett)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 4:39pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/ls-6-4-0-sincedb-with-converted-records-despite-started-empty/151248/1 "2018-10-05T16:39:12Z")
Hello, I've started a pipeline in with file input in read mode, and configured sincedb\_clean\_after to 2 hours, and close\_older to 2 minutes (input files are added every minute). Initially the since db was empty. But since then it keeps growing and growing, whereas I would expect that it stays rather small since the records are expunged every 2 hours right ?? Well, it does not seem to be the case, I opened the file and found many old records, some have 6 fields and many w/o that same 6th field (a short excerpt): > 6473924466549094 0 39 15801 1538729585.759023 /data\_nfs/fdm/LOGS/val/2018/09/30/FOR-SERVICE/zsbwatsov02/FDM\_history\_2018-09-30-20-09.log.gz > 4785074605861734 0 39 18262 1538729575.9758039 /data\_nfs/fdm/LOGS/val/2018/09/28/FOR-SERVICE/zsbwatsov02/FDM\_history\_2018-09-28-20-56.log.gz > 5066549584457954 0 39 41308 1538729640.504036 > 8162774328299343 0 39 21106 1538729640.761678 What are these 5-field records ? do they correspond to records inactivated thanks to the sincedb\_clean\_after setting ? Shouldn't inactive records be expunged from the sincedb ? Thanks for the clarifications... ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/ls-6-4-0-sincedb-with-converted-records-despite-started-empty/151248/2 "2018-11-02T16:53:28Z")
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