# Manage\_security cluster error
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/manage-security-cluster-error/237198
**Category:** Kibana
**Tags:** elastic-stack-security
**Created:** [June 16, 2020, 12:37am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/manage-security-cluster-error/237198 "2020-06-16T00:37:31Z")
**Posts on this page:** 6
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### Author:  [@nameisnotimportant](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/nameisnotimportant)
#### Post date: [June 16, 2020, 12:37am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/manage-security-cluster-error/237198/1 "2020-06-16T00:37:31Z")
Hi, I created and granted a user with manage\_security cluster privileges. By right the user should be able to manage role but somehow, when the user click on role name or the Create role button, nothing happen. May i know what could be the problem ?
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### Author:  [@rashmi](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/rashmi)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2020, 4:05pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/manage-security-cluster-error/237198/2 "2020-07-01T16:05:24Z")
Have you given the user `manage` privileges? Can you elaborate more on what logs are you seeing? Version of the stack you are using, what are he different privileges you have given your user.
Thanks
Rashmi
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### Author:  [@nameisnotimportant](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/nameisnotimportant)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2020, 9:39am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/manage-security-cluster-error/237198/3 "2020-07-06T09:39:43Z")
Hi rashmi,
Thanks for you reply. I only grant manage\_security cluster privilege. Don't understand what do you mean by 'what logs are you seeing?'. If you are talking about error log, there is no error prompted and so i didn't check the log. I am using ELK 7.3.2. Instead of trying to figure out the solution, i now give the user access to Dev Tools and ask the user to use script to create role and grant access rights to user.
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### Author:  [@rashmi](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/rashmi)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/manage-security-cluster-error/237198/4 "2020-07-07T19:10:32Z")
Logs are Kibana logs - it would reveal more information about whats going wrong . Can you also check w ith giving `manage` to your cluster privileges and check again ?
Thanks
rashmi
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### Author:  [@nameisnotimportant](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/nameisnotimportant)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2020, 9:54am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/manage-security-cluster-error/237198/5 "2020-07-08T09:54:13Z")
Hi rashmi,
I did tried to grant manage in the cluster privilege and that additional permission didn't change anything. The user still cannot modify role.
However, i believe that it is case specific because i setup another server from scratch and grant only manage\_security in the cluster privilege to a new role, and grant a user to that new role, that user is able to modify both role and user info. So, i am not sure what went wrong.
The differences between the two server is the ELK version. old server is using version 7.3.2, new server is using 7.7.1.
Never mind, i think this problem is not that important as long as the user agreed to user Dev Tools to run script to perform the required activities. (create role and grant user rights)
Thanks for your help though. Case specific scenario is difficult to troubleshoot .
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### Author:  [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2020, 9:54am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/manage-security-cluster-error/237198/6 "2020-08-05T09:54:21Z")
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