# Manually set initial internal version number?

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/manually-set-initial-internal-version-number/20508>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [October 30, 2014, 11:02pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/manually-set-initial-internal-version-number/20508 "2014-10-30T23:02:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![Nicholas\_Peterson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/nicholas_peterson/32/1144_2.png) [@Nicholas\_Peterson](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Nicholas_Peterson)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 11:02pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/manually-set-initial-internal-version-number/20508/1 "2014-10-30T23:02:26Z")

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Hey all,

When you first index a document, is it possible to give it an "initial"  
internal version number? I'm hoping to make use of these version numbers,  
but just discovered that they're lost when you re-index (via, for instance,  
the Python client's elasticsearch.helpers.reindex(...) method).

Thank you!  
Nick

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**Author:** ![Boaz\_Leskes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/boaz_leskes/32/723_2.png) [@Boaz\_Leskes](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Boaz_Leskes)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2014, 9:57pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/manually-set-initial-internal-version-number/20508/2 "2014-11-02T21:57:17Z")

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I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but did you look at external  
versions? [Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/docs-index_.html#_version_types)

On Friday, October 31, 2014 12:02:26 AM UTC+1, Nicholas Peterson wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> When you first index a document, is it possible to give it an "initial"  
> internal version number? I'm hoping to make use of these version numbers,  
> but just discovered that they're lost when you re-index (via, for instance,  
> the Python client's elasticsearch.helpers.reindex(...) method).
> 
> Thank you!  
> Nick

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 12:52am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/manually-set-initial-internal-version-number/20508/3 "2017-07-06T00:52:36Z")

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