# Marvel / ES query document count major discrepancy **URL:** \ **Category:** Elasticsearch\ **Created:** [November 20, 2014, 7:36pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/marvel-es-query-document-count-major-discrepancy/20873 "2014-11-20T19:36:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mike\_Seid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85e7bf/32.png) [@Mike\_Seid](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Mike_Seid)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 7:36pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/marvel-es-query-document-count-major-discrepancy/20873/1 "2014-11-20T19:36:42Z")
Howdy, I have been hitting my ES cluster pretty hard of recent and I think it is holding up great. In the last few days, I have noticed a major discrepancy in the document count that Marvel shows versus that of doing a \_count query of the actual ES cluster. Marvel is reporting about 43.9M documents while the ES query shows 8.7M. Where would this discrepancy come from? I would suspect it is a monitor error on Marvels part, but I'm not sure. Any ideas? Marvel Screenshot: [![](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/1y39wui96fpjc14/Screenshot%202014-11-20%2009.57.42.png?dl=0) ](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/1y39wui96fpjc14/Screenshot%202014-11-20%2009.57.42.png?dl=0) ES Query: [http://xxxxxxxxx/pa-2014-11-19/\_count](http://xxxxxxxxx/pa-2014-11-19/_count) { - "count": 8781919, - "\_shards": { - "total": 5, - "successful": 5, - "failed": 0 } } Thanks, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/071a26ac-db82-42dc-880b-6165a0d38d30%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/071a26ac-db82-42dc-880b-6165a0d38d30%40googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![otisg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/otisg/32/492_2.png) [@otisg](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/otisg)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2014, 4:41pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/marvel-es-query-document-count-major-discrepancy/20873/2 "2014-11-22T16:41:27Z")
Maybe it's counting replicas? Or its own docs? See SPM [http://sematext.com/spm/](http://sematext.com/spm/) for an alternative. ## Otis Monitoring \* Alerting \* Anomaly Detection \* Centralized Log Management Solr & Elasticsearch Support \* [http://sematext.com/](http://sematext.com/) On Thursday, November 20, 2014 2:36:42 PM UTC-5, Mike Seid wrote: > Howdy, > > I have been hitting my ES cluster pretty hard of recent and I think it is > holding up great. In the last few days, I have noticed a major discrepancy > in the document count that Marvel shows versus that of doing a \_count query > of the actual ES cluster. Marvel is reporting about 43.9M documents while > the ES query shows 8.7M. Where would this discrepancy come from? I would > suspect it is a monitor error on Marvels part, but I'm not sure. Any ideas? > > Marvel Screenshot: > > [Dropbox - Error - Simplify your life](https://www.dropbox.com/s/1y39wui96fpjc14/Screenshot%202014-11-20%2009.57.42.png?dl=0) > > ES Query: > [http://xxxxxxxxx/pa-2014-11-19/\_count](http://xxxxxxxxx/pa-2014-11-19/_count) > { > > - "count": 8781919, > - > > "\_shards": { > - "total": 5, > - "successful": 5, > - "failed": 0 > } > > } > > Thanks, > > Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/6d426f13-a847-46b3-a273-62e85a6b5a78%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/6d426f13-a847-46b3-a273-62e85a6b5a78%40googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![Boaz\_Leskes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/boaz_leskes/32/723_2.png) [@Boaz\_Leskes](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Boaz_Leskes)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 11:02pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/marvel-es-query-document-count-major-discrepancy/20873/3 "2014-11-30T23:02:51Z")
Hi Mike, That number includes all the docs currently in the index, including deleted docs which are not yet physically merged away (the same as the ES Stats API does, check the delete stats in the same part). Did you do some documents deletion before checking? Cheers, Boaz On Thursday, November 20, 2014 8:36:42 PM UTC+1, Mike Seid wrote: > Howdy, > > I have been hitting my ES cluster pretty hard of recent and I think it is > holding up great. In the last few days, I have noticed a major discrepancy > in the document count that Marvel shows versus that of doing a \_count query > of the actual ES cluster. Marvel is reporting about 43.9M documents while > the ES query shows 8.7M. Where would this discrepancy come from? I would > suspect it is a monitor error on Marvels part, but I'm not sure. Any ideas? > > Marvel Screenshot: > > [Dropbox - File Deleted - Simplify your life](https://www.dropbox.com/s/1y39wui96fpjc14/Screenshot%202014-11-20%2009.57.42.png?dl=0) > > ES Query: > [http://xxxxxxxxx/pa-2014-11-19/\_count](http://xxxxxxxxx/pa-2014-11-19/_count) > { > > - "count": 8781919, > - > > "\_shards": { > - "total": 5, > - "successful": 5, > - "failed": 0 > } > > } > > Thanks, > > Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/ca1b066c-e5c5-428a-aee4-a35bb2bff1a4%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/ca1b066c-e5c5-428a-aee4-a35bb2bff1a4%40googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![DaltonVidra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@DaltonVidra](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/DaltonVidra)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 9:29am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/marvel-es-query-document-count-major-discrepancy/20873/4 "2014-12-01T09:29:20Z")
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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 12:46am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/marvel-es-query-document-count-major-discrepancy/20873/5 "2017-07-06T00:46:57Z")