# Missing Elasticsearch menu in Kibana

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/missing-elasticsearch-menu-in-kibana/254799>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [November 9, 2020, 5:09pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/missing-elasticsearch-menu-in-kibana/254799 "2020-11-09T17:09:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Lorenzo\_Allori](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/lorenzo_allori/32/78559_2.png) [@Lorenzo\_Allori](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Lorenzo_Allori)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 5:09pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/missing-elasticsearch-menu-in-kibana/254799/1 "2020-11-09T17:09:13Z")

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Hello I created a new installation from docker using:  
elasticsearch:7.8.0  
kibana:7.8.0

these two docker images.

But when i use kibana I cannot see the Elasticsearch menu (access to index patterns etc.=).

Is it possible to add them in some way?

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**Author:** ![dadoonet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/dadoonet/32/137187_2.png) [@dadoonet](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dadoonet)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/missing-elasticsearch-menu-in-kibana/254799/2 "2020-11-09T18:23:06Z")

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Could you share what you are seeing and how you are launching it?

By the way why not using the latest version? 7.9.3

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**Author:** ![Lorenzo\_Allori](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/lorenzo_allori/32/78559_2.png) [@Lorenzo\_Allori](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Lorenzo_Allori)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 7:33am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/missing-elasticsearch-menu-in-kibana/254799/3 "2020-11-10T07:33:11Z")

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hi!

Thanks for your reply!

This morning I finally found it.  
The Elasticsearch menu just appeared under **Management -\> Stack Management**.

Seems that from 7.7.x changed place.

ps=to get the latest version is there a way I can update my docker images without having to reinstall everything?

Thanks a lot

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**Author:** ![dadoonet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/dadoonet/32/137187_2.png) [@dadoonet](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dadoonet)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 8:38am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/missing-elasticsearch-menu-in-kibana/254799/4 "2020-11-10T08:38:09Z")

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I guess you just have to change the version number (for a minor update like this) and restart the containers?

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**Author:** ![Lorenzo\_Allori](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/lorenzo_allori/32/78559_2.png) [@Lorenzo\_Allori](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Lorenzo_Allori)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 10:15am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/missing-elasticsearch-menu-in-kibana/254799/5 "2020-11-10T10:15:04Z")

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Wouldn't I lose the whole system configuration and data (all dashboards, security conf user/roles, and indexes)?

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**Author:** ![dadoonet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/dadoonet/32/137187_2.png) [@dadoonet](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dadoonet)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 10:29am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/missing-elasticsearch-menu-in-kibana/254799/6 "2020-11-10T10:29:58Z")

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I guess this depends on how you created the Docker instances, specifically regarding volumes where the data is stored on.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 10:30am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/missing-elasticsearch-menu-in-kibana/254799/7 "2020-12-08T10:30:05Z")

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