# .monitoring-es-7\* indexes on newly installed cluster with version 8.17.6

**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/monitoring-es-7-indexes-on-newly-installed-cluster-with-version-8-17-6/380529
**Category:** Elasticsearch
**Tags:** elastic-stack-monitoring, docker
**Created:** [July 29, 2025, 10:28am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/monitoring-es-7-indexes-on-newly-installed-cluster-with-version-8-17-6/380529 "2025-07-29T10:28:07Z")
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### Author: ![amrit\_singh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/amrit_singh/32/134583_2.png) [@amrit\_singh](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/amrit_singh)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2025, 10:28am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/monitoring-es-7-indexes-on-newly-installed-cluster-with-version-8-17-6/380529/1 "2025-07-29T10:28:08Z")

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I have newly installed cluster with elasticsearch and kibana over version 8.17.6. When enabling self-monitoring over it, it creates .monitoring-es-7\* indexes instead of .monitoring-es-8-mb indexes.  
Tried reinstalling and deleting indexes post turning off monitoring, but it reappears when monitoring is enabled.

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### Author: ![Tortoise](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/tortoise/32/147587_2.png) [@Tortoise](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Tortoise)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2025, 10:53am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/monitoring-es-7-indexes-on-newly-installed-cluster-with-version-8-17-6/380529/2 "2025-07-29T10:53:01Z")

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Hello @amrit_singh

Welcome back!!

As you have enabled self-monitoring it writes in .monitoring-es-7\*

If you are using Metricbeat-based monitoring, the `.monitoring-es-8-mb` index is created instead. The `-mb` suffix indicates that the data is collected using Metricbeat.

I have tried to enable self-monitoring in 9.0.2 & same type is created .monitoring-es-7\*

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/6/6/66cf9f42283df98eceac2e001bc1d11309386270.png)

Reference URL :

> **[Configuring indices created by Metricbeat 7 or internal collection | Elastic...](https://www.elastic.co/docs/deploy-manage/monitor/monitoring-data/config-monitoring-indices-metricbeat-7-internal-collection)**
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> When monitoring using Metricbeat 7 or internal collection, data is stored in a set of indices called either: .monitoring-{{product}}-7-mb-{{date}}, when...

Thanks!!

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### Author: ![amrit\_singh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/amrit_singh/32/134583_2.png) [@amrit\_singh](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/amrit_singh)
#### Post date: [July 30, 2025, 4:59am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/monitoring-es-7-indexes-on-newly-installed-cluster-with-version-8-17-6/380529/3 "2025-07-30T04:59:25Z")

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Thanks bro, doubt clarified.