# Monitoring indices not created

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/monitoring-indices-not-created/192786>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [July 29, 2019, 10:47pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/monitoring-indices-not-created/192786 "2019-07-29T22:47:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![mstarensier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/edb3f5/32.png) [@mstarensier](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/mstarensier)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 10:47pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/monitoring-indices-not-created/192786/1 "2019-07-29T22:47:57Z")

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I'm running a new prod 7.2 cluster. Want to view my ES logs in kibana as I did in dev cluster. I understand recommendation to use a seperate monitoring cluster, but for now, just want local. I set my cluster settings set dymanically to this:  
{  
"persistent" : {  
"xpack" : {  
"monitoring" : {  
"elasticsearch" : {  
"collection" : {  
"enabled" : "true"  
}  
},  
"collection" : {  
"enabled" : "true"  
}  
}  
}  
}

but if I run GET /\_cat/indices, no .monitoring\* indices are created, and in kibana monitoring tab, I get no monitoring data found message.

Any suggestions?

One note, my cluster has no ingest nodes, only data, master, and coordinating. I saw in docs that for remote monitoring cluster, at least one ingest node is required, but i assumed this didn't apply for local output. Is this correct?

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**Author:** ![abdon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/abdon/32/9195_2.png) [@abdon](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/abdon)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 4:18pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/monitoring-indices-not-created/192786/2 "2019-07-31T16:18:56Z")

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You do need an ingest node, even when using the local cluster for the monitoring data. You could enable ingest on the data nodes, or you could [create an explicit local exporter](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/monitoring-settings.html#local-exporter-settings) with `use_ingest` set to `false`.

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**Author:** ![mstarensier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/edb3f5/32.png) [@mstarensier](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/mstarensier)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 2:39am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/monitoring-indices-not-created/192786/3 "2019-08-01T02:39:18Z")

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Thanks. I did just that, enabled ingest on the data nodes, and monitoring indices were created correctly.

IMO, the documentation on this point is a little ambiguous. Would help if it was clear that an ingest node is required even for local cluster monitoring.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 2:39am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/monitoring-indices-not-created/192786/4 "2019-08-29T02:39:27Z")

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