# Moving to production - Storage and servers **URL:** \ **Category:** Elasticsearch\ **Created:** [February 12, 2015, 2:55pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/moving-to-production-storage-and-servers/22139 "2015-02-12T14:55:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rondelvictor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f9ae1b/32.png) [@rondelvictor](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/rondelvictor)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 2:55pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/moving-to-production-storage-and-servers/22139/1 "2015-02-12T14:55:41Z")
Hi everyone, After my first [https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/elasticsearch/US-BA4R\_Qdc](https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/elasticsearch/US-BA4R_Qdc) and second question [https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/elasticsearch/FGKUmzn-WSs](https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/elasticsearch/FGKUmzn-WSs) regarding clusters' examples and multy-tenancy with garantee of service, I have one more on my way to production : Could you describe the _pros_ and _cons_ of the : 1. Disks : _DAS_ (Direct Attached Storage) - _JBOD_ (Just a Bunch Of Disks) / _SAN_ (Storage Area Network)? I take it that NAS is most of the time to be avoided 2. Servers : bare metal servers / virtual servers ? For those interested : - JBOD / SAN storage discussion in "To Raid or not to Raid": [https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/elasticsearch/hardware/elasticsearch/HSj2fZGdU1Y/4mFCBTCb-JcJ](https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/elasticsearch/hardware/elasticsearch/HSj2fZGdU1Y/4mFCBTCb-JcJ) - Doc which states about SSDs, RAID0, NAS, networks [http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/current/hardware.html](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/current/hardware.html) Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/3ab36482-e4fb-4dd0-99cd-044d2e4257ea%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/3ab36482-e4fb-4dd0-99cd-044d2e4257ea%40googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![warkolm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/warkolm/32/39224_2.png) [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 9:45pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/moving-to-production-storage-and-servers/22139/2 "2015-02-12T21:45:29Z")
SAN and NAS are in the same boat, using network storage with ES is problematic. DAS and JBOD are fine. ES will run fine on hardware or virtualised. It really comes down to your needs and budget. On 13 February 2015 at 01:55, [rondelvictor@gmail.com](mailto:rondelvictor@gmail.com) wrote: > Hi everyone, > > After my first > [https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/elasticsearch/US-BA4R\_Qdc](https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/elasticsearch/US-BA4R_Qdc) > and second question > [https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/elasticsearch/FGKUmzn-WSs](https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/elasticsearch/FGKUmzn-WSs) > regarding clusters' examples and multy-tenancy with garantee of service, I > have one more on my way to production : > > Could you describe the _pros_ and _cons_ of the : > > 1. Disks : _DAS_ (Direct Attached Storage) - _JBOD_ (Just a Bunch Of > Disks) / _SAN_ (Storage Area Network)? I take it that NAS is most > of the time to be avoided > 2. Servers : bare metal servers / virtual servers ? > > For those interested : > > - JBOD / SAN storage discussion in "To Raid or not to Raid": > [Redirecting to Google Groups](https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/) > elasticsearch/hardware/elasticsearch/HSj2fZGdU1Y/4mFCBTCb-JcJ > [https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/elasticsearch/hardware/elasticsearch/HSj2fZGdU1Y/4mFCBTCb-JcJ](https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/elasticsearch/hardware/elasticsearch/HSj2fZGdU1Y/4mFCBTCb-JcJ) > - Doc which states about SSDs, RAID0, NAS, networks > > [Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/current/hardware.html) > > Thanks! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > To view this discussion on the web visit > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/3ab36482-e4fb-4dd0-99cd-044d2e4257ea%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/3ab36482-e4fb-4dd0-99cd-044d2e4257ea%40googlegroups.com) > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/3ab36482-e4fb-4dd0-99cd-044d2e4257ea%40googlegroups.com?utm\_medium=email&utm\_source=footer](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/3ab36482-e4fb-4dd0-99cd-044d2e4257ea%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer) > . > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEYi1X8Xe1CXVT3TcdWPmzd1HmE\_P8VdTzB0%2BqG%3Dyj9ePSNKiw%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEYi1X8Xe1CXVT3TcdWPmzd1HmE_P8VdTzB0%2BqG%3Dyj9ePSNKiw%40mail.gmail.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Hull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Charlie\_Hull](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Charlie_Hull)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 2:57pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/moving-to-production-storage-and-servers/22139/3 "2015-02-13T14:57:58Z")
Agree with Mark - for search applications in general you really don't want your index in network storage. The cacheing etc. doesn't play nicely with the access patterns. Indexes should be on local disk. I've lost track of the amount of times we've had to explain this... Charlie On 12 February 2015 at 21:45, Mark Walkom [markwalkom@gmail.com](mailto:markwalkom@gmail.com) wrote: > SAN and NAS are in the same boat, using network storage with ES is > problematic. DAS and JBOD are fine. > ES will run fine on hardware or virtualised. > > It really comes down to your needs and budget. > > On 13 February 2015 at 01:55, [rondelvictor@gmail.com](mailto:rondelvictor@gmail.com) wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > After my first > > [https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/elasticsearch/US-BA4R\_Qdc](https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/elasticsearch/US-BA4R_Qdc) > > and second question > > [https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/elasticsearch/FGKUmzn-WSs](https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/elasticsearch/FGKUmzn-WSs) > > regarding clusters' examples and multy-tenancy with garantee of service, I > > have one more on my way to production : > > > > Could you describe the _pros_ and _cons_ of the : > > > > 1. Disks : _DAS_ (Direct Attached Storage) - _JBOD_ (Just a Bunch Of > > Disks) / _SAN_ (Storage Area Network)? I take it that NAS is most > > of the time to be avoided > > 2. Servers : bare metal servers / virtual servers ? > > > > For those interested : > > > > - JBOD / SAN storage discussion in "To Raid or not to Raid": > > [Redirecting to Google Groups](https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/) > > elasticsearch/hardware/elasticsearch/HSj2fZGdU1Y/4mFCBTCb-JcJ > > [https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/elasticsearch/hardware/elasticsearch/HSj2fZGdU1Y/4mFCBTCb-JcJ](https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/elasticsearch/hardware/elasticsearch/HSj2fZGdU1Y/4mFCBTCb-JcJ) > > - Doc which states about SSDs, RAID0, NAS, networks > > > > [Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/current/hardware.html) > > > > Thanks! > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "elasticsearch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/3ab36482-e4fb-4dd0-99cd-044d2e4257ea%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/3ab36482-e4fb-4dd0-99cd-044d2e4257ea%40googlegroups.com) > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/3ab36482-e4fb-4dd0-99cd-044d2e4257ea%40googlegroups.com?utm\_medium=email&utm\_source=footer](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/3ab36482-e4fb-4dd0-99cd-044d2e4257ea%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer) > > . > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > To view this discussion on the web visit > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEYi1X8Xe1CXVT3TcdWPmzd1HmE\_P8VdTzB0%2BqG%3Dyj9ePSNKiw%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEYi1X8Xe1CXVT3TcdWPmzd1HmE_P8VdTzB0%2BqG%3Dyj9ePSNKiw%40mail.gmail.com) > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEYi1X8Xe1CXVT3TcdWPmzd1HmE\_P8VdTzB0%2BqG%3Dyj9ePSNKiw%40mail.gmail.com?utm\_medium=email&utm\_source=footer](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEYi1X8Xe1CXVT3TcdWPmzd1HmE_P8VdTzB0%2BqG%3Dyj9ePSNKiw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer) > . > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAGe-MLKbTo8wUEynQW-qSEKa1hEz1f0ZwaUBPf1yUHDehKWzZg%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAGe-MLKbTo8wUEynQW-qSEKa1hEz1f0ZwaUBPf1yUHDehKWzZg%40mail.gmail.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 12:32am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/moving-to-production-storage-and-servers/22139/4 "2017-07-06T00:32:57Z")