# Multiple Kibana instances per cluster

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/multiple-kibana-instances-per-cluster/132531>\
**Category:** Elastic Cloud Enterprise (ECE)\
**Created:** [May 18, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/multiple-kibana-instances-per-cluster/132531 "2018-05-18T19:17:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![jmtrc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@jmtrc](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jmtrc)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/multiple-kibana-instances-per-cluster/132531/1 "2018-05-18T19:17:10Z")

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Looks like Kibana does not have a feature to apply role based access control on visualization or dashboard items within one instance. Can ECE configure multiple Kibana instances for a given cluster?

I understand that permission is applied on index but this special use case wants to have minimal information leakage between users.

Thanks.

Jin.

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**Author:** ![Yuri](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/yuri/32/52458_2.png) [@Yuri](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Yuri)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/multiple-kibana-instances-per-cluster/132531/2 "2018-05-24T20:24:36Z")

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Hi Jin,  
unfortunately ECE does not support multiple Kibana deployments that point to one Elasticsearch cluster.

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**Author:** ![jmtrc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@jmtrc](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jmtrc)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/multiple-kibana-instances-per-cluster/132531/3 "2018-05-24T20:44:51Z")

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@Yuri, thank you. Jin.

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**Author:** ![jmtrc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@jmtrc](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jmtrc)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/multiple-kibana-instances-per-cluster/132531/4 "2018-05-31T17:23:10Z")

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@Yuri,

If I have additional kibana instances connecting to the same elastic cluster, will there any conflict or potential race condition between the ECE kibana and additional kibana instances?

Thank you.

Jin.

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**Author:** ![Yuri](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/yuri/32/52458_2.png) [@Yuri](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Yuri)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 8:20am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/multiple-kibana-instances-per-cluster/132531/5 "2018-06-04T08:20:54Z")

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@jmtrc, I am not expert in Kibana, but I do think that some kind of race conditions is possible if Kibana instances are configured to point to the same index for storing metadata.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 8:20am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/multiple-kibana-instances-per-cluster/132531/6 "2018-06-18T08:20:59Z")

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