# Need to reproduce X-Pack Monitoring's Indexing Rate graph in a Kibana Timelion graph - how? **URL:** \ **Category:** Kibana\ **Tags:** elastic-stack-monitoring\ **Created:** [August 13, 2019, 10:22pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/need-to-reproduce-x-pack-monitorings-indexing-rate-graph-in-a-kibana-timelion-graph-how/195116 "2019-08-13T22:22:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Neil\_M](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/neil_m/32/43621_2.png) [@Neil\_M](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Neil_M)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 10:22pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/need-to-reproduce-x-pack-monitorings-indexing-rate-graph-in-a-kibana-timelion-graph-how/195116/1 "2019-08-13T22:22:10Z")
I have a need to reproduce both the Search Rate and Indexing Rate graphs from the X-Pack Monitoring application in a timelion graph so that it can be put into a dashboard that can be embedded in an external web page. I have looked at the fields in the .monitoring index, but cannot figure out how the graphs were built. Is it possible to reproduce these graphs? I am currently running Elasticsearch Stack Version 5.3. We are transitioning to the latest ELK 7.x in early 2020, but I need to get this done now with 5.3. Thanks for your guidance. Cheers, Neil ---
**Author:** ![chrisronline](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/chrisronline/32/28230_2.png) [@chrisronline](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/chrisronline)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 2:25pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/need-to-reproduce-x-pack-monitorings-indexing-rate-graph-in-a-kibana-timelion-graph-how/195116/2 "2019-08-14T14:25:57Z")
Hi @Neil_M, Welcome and great questions! I'd be happy to show you the code path to figuring out these things, but I'd also like to warn that building manual charts for _system indices_ (which start with `.`) are not officially supported, as we may change the mappings without notice in any release. > Search Rate Since this in on the Elasticsearch overview page, we can see those [metrics listed here](https://github.com/elastic/kibana/blob/master/x-pack/legacy/plugins/monitoring/server/routes/api/v1/elasticsearch/metric_set_overview.js#L8). Then, that is mapped to [this metric here](https://github.com/elastic/kibana/blob/master/x-pack/legacy/plugins/monitoring/server/lib/metrics/elasticsearch/metrics.js#L120), which shows the field name is: `indices_stats._all.total.search.query_total`. Once you know that, you can [double check the class definition for the metric](https://github.com/elastic/kibana/blob/master/x-pack/legacy/plugins/monitoring/server/lib/metrics/elasticsearch/classes.js#L140) which will help understand any post processing we might do with the data. For example, a `derivative: true` means the value is a counter and [we use a derivative aggregation](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/search-aggregations-pipeline-derivative-aggregation.html). > Indexing Rate [Start here](https://github.com/elastic/kibana/blob/master/x-pack/legacy/plugins/monitoring/server/routes/api/v1/elasticsearch/metric_set_overview.js#L12) then [look here](https://github.com/elastic/kibana/blob/master/x-pack/legacy/plugins/monitoring/server/lib/metrics/elasticsearch/metrics.js#L109) and you'll see the field is: `indices_stats._all.total.indexing.index_total`. Hope this helps and good luck! ---
**Author:** ![Neil\_M](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/neil_m/32/43621_2.png) [@Neil\_M](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Neil_M)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:10pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/need-to-reproduce-x-pack-monitorings-indexing-rate-graph-in-a-kibana-timelion-graph-how/195116/3 "2019-08-14T20:10:38Z")
Thanks @chrisronline for your guidance! I'll dig into that and see where it leads me. I fully understand your point about the risk of using system indices. ---
**Author:** ![Neil\_M](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/neil_m/32/43621_2.png) [@Neil\_M](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Neil_M)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 4:36am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/need-to-reproduce-x-pack-monitorings-indexing-rate-graph-in-a-kibana-timelion-graph-how/195116/4 "2019-08-15T04:36:06Z")
Chris, it worked perfectly! Took a bit to figure out the right timelion functions to use, but I fully replicated the graph. I was also able to overlay the previous day's data, which is quite helpful. Thanks again for your guidance! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 4:39am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/need-to-reproduce-x-pack-monitorings-indexing-rate-graph-in-a-kibana-timelion-graph-how/195116/5 "2019-09-12T04:39:30Z")
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