# .NET Agent is not capturing / sending spans to APM/ Elastic **URL:** \ **Category:** APM\ **Tags:** dotnet, language-clients\ **Created:** [September 13, 2022, 4:47pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/net-agent-is-not-capturing-sending-spans-to-apm-elastic/314319 "2022-09-13T16:47:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dwmri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/47e85d/32.png) [@dwmri](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dwmri)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 4:47pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/net-agent-is-not-capturing-sending-spans-to-apm-elastic/314319/1 "2022-09-13T16:47:36Z")
Hi, We are trying to capture tracing data from a .NET application into APM to help pinpoint performance problems, we can see HTTP requests listed under the application in Kibana, with URL and times, however we cannot see any transactions / spans / metadata within each of the URLs; we have existing applications working that are based upon Java, and we are getting transactions / spans, metadata, etcetera into APM / Elastic / Kibana. The .NET and Java applications are going into the same infrastructure / services so we do not believe it to be an infrastructure issue. **Kibana version** : 6.8.0 **Elasticsearch version** : 6.8.22 **APM Server version** : 6.8.11 **APM Agent language and version** : ```auto "user-agent": "apm-agent-dotnet/1.17.0+db0dc2f2389613571d7f18a674e14868e3a2c1ca (xxxxx) System.Net.Http/4.8.4084.0 .NET_Framework/4.8.4510.0" ``` **Browser version** : Chrome **Is there anything special in your setup?** ALB in front of APM, but other JAVA-based services are working as expected. **Description of the problem including expected versus actual behavior. Please include screenshots (if relevant)**: I expect to see spans within each of the URL entries capturing function / class / database calls within the application, yet I do not see any data under each of the URLs listed in the images. > **[00 hor 002](https://freeimage.host/i/00-hor-002.PSNbdx)** > > Image 00 hor 002 hosted in Freeimage.host > **[00 hor 001](https://freeimage.host/i/00-hor-001.PSNm5Q)** > > Image 00 hor 001 hosted in Freeimage.host **Steps to reproduce** : 1. Deploy a .NET agent, point it at APM 6.8.11 2. Navigate to Kibana 6.8.0, view the app APM entry to find no spans listed within **Agent Configuration** ```auto ``` **Provide logs and/or server output (if relevant)**: **APM Agent log output** ```auto [2022-09-09 13:47:48.351 +01:00][Debug] - {AbstractConfigurationReader (FullFrameworkConfigReader)} Service name provided in configuration is XXXXXXXX [2022-09-09 13:47:48.354 +01:00][Info] - {AbstractConfigurationReader (FullFrameworkConfigReader)} The agent was started without a service version. The service version will be automatically discovered. [2022-09-09 13:47:48.356 +01:00][Warning] - {AbstractConfigurationReader (FullFrameworkConfigReader)} Failed to discover service version, the service version will be omitted. [2022-09-09 13:47:48.370 +01:00][Debug] - {SystemInfoHelper} No /proc/self/cgroup found - the agent will not report container id [2022-09-09 13:47:48.390 +01:00][Debug] - {BackendCommUtils} Building HTTP client with BaseAddress: https://apm.xxxxxx.xxx/ for BackendCommComponentBase (PayloadSenderV2)... [2022-09-09 13:47:48.421 +01:00][Debug] - {AbstractConfigurationReader (FullFrameworkConfigReader)} GlobalLabels configuration option doesn't have a valid value - using default (empty map) [2022-09-09 13:47:48.425 +01:00][Debug] - {AbstractConfigurationReader (FullFrameworkConfigReader)} MaxQueueEventCount configuration option doesn't have a valid value - using default: 1000 [2022-09-09 13:47:48.427 +01:00][Debug] - {AbstractConfigurationReader (FullFrameworkConfigReader)} MaxBatchEventCount configuration option doesn't have a valid value - using default: 10 [2022-09-09 13:47:48.429 +01:00][Debug] - {AbstractConfigurationReader (FullFrameworkConfigReader)} FlushInterval configuration option doesn't have a valid value - using default: 00:00:10 [2022-09-09 13:47:48.434 +01:00][Debug] - {PayloadSenderV2} Using the following configuration options: Events intake API absolute URL: https://apm.xxxxxx.xxx/intake/v2/events, FlushInterval: 10s, MaxBatchEventCount: 10, MaxQueueEventCount: 1000 [2022-09-09 13:47:48.449 +01:00][Debug] - {BackendCommComponentBase (PayloadSenderV2)} Waiting for work loop started event... [2022-09-09 13:47:48.456 +01:00][Debug] - {BackendCommComponentBase (PayloadSenderV2)} Signaling work loop started event... [2022-09-09 13:47:48.458 +01:00][Debug] - {BackendCommComponentBase (PayloadSenderV2)} Work loop started signaled [2022-09-09 13:47:48.464 +01:00][Debug] - {AbstractConfigurationReader (FullFrameworkConfigReader)} CentralConfig configuration option doesn't have a valid value - using default: True [2022-09-09 13:47:48.466 +01:00][Debug] - {BackendCommUtils} Building HTTP client with BaseAddress: https://apm.xxxxxx.xxx/ for BackendCommComponentBase (CentralConfigurationFetcher)... [2022-09-09 13:47:48.469 +01:00][Debug] - {AbstractConfigurationReader (FullFrameworkConfigReader)} CentralConfig configuration option doesn't have a valid value - using default: True [2022-09-09 13:47:48.470 +01:00][Debug] - {AbstractConfigurationReader (FullFrameworkConfigReader)} CentralConfig configuration option doesn't have a valid value - using default: True [2022-09-09 13:47:48.472 +01:00][Debug] - {AbstractConfigurationReader (FullFrameworkConfigReader)} CentralConfig configuration option doesn't have a valid value - using default: True [2022-09-09 13:47:48.474 +01:00][Debug] - {CentralConfigurationFetcher} Central configuration feature is enabled because CentralConfig option's value is True (default value is True) [2022-09-09 13:47:48.476 +01:00][Debug] - {AbstractConfigurationReader (FullFrameworkConfigReader)} CentralConfig configuration option doesn't have a valid value - using default: True [2022-09-09 13:47:48.477 +01:00][Debug] - {AbstractConfigurationReader (FullFrameworkConfigReader)} CentralConfig configuration option doesn't have a valid value - using default: True [2022-09-09 13:47:48.480 +01:00][Debug] - {CentralConfigurationFetcher} Combined absolute URL for APM Server get central configuration endpoint: `https://apm.xxxxxx.xxx/config/v1/agents?service.name=XXXXXXXX&service.environment=development'. Service: Service{Name: XXXXXXXX, Version: null, Environment: development, Runtime: Runtime{Name: .NET Framework, Version: 4.8.4510.0}, Framework: null, Agent: AgentC{Name: dotnet, Version: 1.17.0+db0dc2f2389613571d7f18a674e14868e3a2c1ca}, Language: null, Node: Node{ConfiguredName: null}}. [2022-09-09 13:47:48.483 +01:00][Debug] - {BackendCommComponentBase (CentralConfigurationFetcher)} Waiting for work loop started event... [2022-09-09 13:47:48.489 +01:00][Debug] - {BackendCommComponentBase (CentralConfigurationFetcher)} Signaling work loop started event... [2022-09-09 13:47:48.491 +01:00][Debug] - {BackendCommComponentBase (CentralConfigurationFetcher)} Work loop started signaled [2022-09-09 13:47:48.643 +01:00][Debug] - {CentralConfigurationFetcher} Exception was thrown while fetching configuration from APM Server and parsing it. ETag: `'. URL: `https://apm.xxxxxx.xxx/config/v1/agents?service.name=XXXXXXXX&service.environment=development'. Apm Server base URL: `https://apm.xxxxxx.xxx/'. WaitInterval: 5m. dbgIterationsCount: 1. +-> Request: Method: GET, RequestUri: 'https://apm.xxxxxx.xxx/config/v1/agents?service.name=XXXXXXXX&service.environment=development', Version: 1.1, Content: , Headers: { User-Agent: apm-agent-dotnet/1.17.0+db0dc2f2389613571d7f18a674e14868e3a2c1ca User-Agent: (XXXXXXXX) User-Agent: System.Net.Http/4.8.4084.0 User-Agent: .NET_Framework/4.8.4510.0 } +-> Response: StatusCode: 404, ReasonPhrase: 'Not Found', Version: 1.1, Content: System.Net.Http.StreamContent, Headers: { Connection: keep-alive Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2022 12:47:49 GMT Set-Cookie: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Expires=Fri, 16 Sep 2022 12:47:49 GMT; Path=/; SameSite=None; Secure X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff Content-Length: 19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 } +-> Response body [length: 19]: 404 page not found +-> Exception: Elastic.Apm.BackendComm.CentralConfig.CentralConfigurationFetcher+FailedToFetchConfigException: HTTP status code is Not Found (404) which most likely means that APM Server is an old (pre 7.3) version which doesn't support the central configuration endpoint at Elastic.Apm.BackendComm.CentralConfig.CentralConfigurationResponseParser.InterpretResponseStatusCode(HttpResponseMessage httpResponse, WaitInfoS waitInfo) at Elastic.Apm.BackendComm.CentralConfig.CentralConfigurationResponseParser.ParseHttpResponse(HttpResponseMessage httpResponse, String httpResponseBody) at Elastic.Apm.BackendComm.CentralConfig.CentralConfigurationFetcher.WorkLoopIteration() [2022-09-09 13:47:48.649 +01:00][Info] - {MetricsCollector} Collecting metrics in 30000 milliseconds interval [2022-09-09 13:47:48.655 +01:00][Debug] - {ElasticApmModule.#1} Found ASP.NET version: 4.8.4494.0 [2022-09-09 13:47:48.658 +01:00][Debug] - {AbstractConfigurationReader (FullFrameworkConfigReader)} CaptureHeaders configuration option doesn't have a valid value - using default: True [2022-09-09 13:47:48.661 +01:00][Debug] - {HttpDiagnosticListener} Current runtime is detected as Full Framework. RuntimeInformation.FrameworkDescription: .NET Framework 4.8.4510.0 [2022-09-09 13:47:48.675 +01:00][Debug] - {DiagnosticInitializer} Subscribed Elastic.Apm.DiagnosticListeners.HttpDiagnosticListenerFullFrameworkImpl to `System.Net.Http.Desktop' events source [2022-09-09 13:47:48.677 +01:00][Debug] - {ElasticApmModule.#1} Initialized Agent singleton. .NET runtime: .NET Framework 4.8.4510.0; IIS: 10.0 [2022-09-09 13:47:48.744 +01:00][Warning] - {PayloadSenderV2} Failed parsing APM Server version - version string not available [2022-09-09 13:47:49.383 +01:00][Debug] - {ElasticApmModule.#1} Incoming request processing started - starting trace... [2022-09-09 13:47:49.392 +01:00][Debug] - {ElasticApmModule.#1} Incoming request doesn't have elastic-apm-traceparent header - it means request doesn't have incoming distributed tracing data [2022-09-09 13:47:49.395 +01:00][Debug] - {ElasticApmModule.#1} Incoming request doesn't have valid incoming distributed tracing data - starting trace with new trace ID [2022-09-09 13:47:49.402 +01:00][Debug] - {AbstractConfigurationReader (FullFrameworkConfigReader)} No transaction sample rate provided. Defaulting to '1' [2022-09-09 13:47:49.417 +01:00][Debug] - {Tracer} Starting Transaction{Id: 9eb9e8421f820212, TraceId: bd92ac0404fc88e5f1c10a02867b6999, ParentId: null, Name: GET /, Type: request, Outcome: Unknown, IsSampled: True} [2022-09-09 13:47:49.497 +01:00][Debug] - {ElasticApmModule.#1} Incoming request processing finished - ending trace... [2022-09-09 13:47:49.515 +01:00][Debug] - {PayloadSenderV2} Enqueued Transaction. newEventQueueCount: 1. MaxQueueEventCount: 1000. Transaction: Transaction{Id: 9eb9e8421f820212, TraceId: bd92ac0404fc88e5f1c10a02867b6999, ParentId: null, Name: GET /, Type: request, Outcome: Success, IsSampled: True}. [2022-09-09 13:47:49.530 +01:00][Debug] - {ElasticApmModule.#1} Incoming request processing started - starting trace... [2022-09-09 13:47:49.534 +01:00][Debug] - {ElasticApmModule.#1} Incoming request doesn't have elastic-apm-traceparent header - it means request doesn't have incoming distributed tracing data [2022-09-09 13:47:49.537 +01:00][Debug] - {ElasticApmModule.#1} Incoming request doesn't have valid incoming distributed tracing data - starting trace with new trace ID [2022-09-09 13:47:49.540 +01:00][Debug] - {AbstractConfigurationReader (FullFrameworkConfigReader)} No transaction sample rate provided. Defaulting to '1' [2022-09-09 13:47:49.542 +01:00][Debug] - {Tracer} Starting Transaction{Id: d0258d9e52635600, TraceId: 878b26aefcbc4009e67da401698aa44f, ParentId: null, Name: GET /ADLogin.aspx, Type: request, Outcome: Unknown, IsSampled: True} [2022-09-09 13:47:50.245 +01:00][Debug] - {ElasticApmModule.#1} Incoming request processing finished - ending trace... [2022-09-09 13:47:50.247 +01:00][Debug] - {PayloadSenderV2} Enqueued Transaction. newEventQueueCount: 2. MaxQueueEventCount: 1000. Transaction: Transaction{Id: d0258d9e52635600, TraceId: 878b26aefcbc4009e67da401698aa44f, ParentId: null, Name: GET /ADLogin.aspx, Type: request, Outcome: Success, IsSampled: True}. ``` **APM Server Output** ```auto 2022-09-13T14:37:53.697Z INFO [request] beater/common_handlers.go:272 handled request {"request_id": "cb4d2f60-6cc8-4182-ac37-5df0c7e88263", "method": "POST", "URL": "/intake/v2/events", "content_length": 1199, "remote_address": "xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx", "user-agent": "apm-agent-dotnet/1.17.0+db0dc2f2389613571d7f18a674e14868e3a2c1ca (xxxxxxxxxx) System.Net.Http/4.8.4084.0 .NET_Framework/4.8.4510.0", "response_code": 202} ``` ---
**Author:** ![GregKalapos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/gregkalapos/32/37205_2.png) [@GregKalapos](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/GregKalapos)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 7:05pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/net-agent-is-not-capturing-sending-spans-to-apm-elastic/314319/2 "2022-09-13T19:05:05Z")
Hi @dwmri one important thing to note here is that the .NET agent doesn't have a feature similar to the [inferred spans feature in the Java agent](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/apm/agent/java/current/method-sampling-based.html). Having said that, the .NET Agent would still capture spans for supported technologies (typically things like DB calls, outgoing HTTP calls and similar). How did you turn on the agent? To me it seems you added the IIS module into the `web.config` - is that right? If so, then maybe a better and easier way to turn on the agent would be to use the profiler based agent: [Profiler Auto instrumentation | APM .NET Agent Reference [1.12] | Elastic](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/apm/agent/dotnet/current/setup-auto-instrumentation.html) The clear advantage of that (especially on Full Framework which you have here) is that it'll turn on a whole bunch of auto instrumentation which then capture spans for supported technologies. ---
**Author:** ![dwmri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/47e85d/32.png) [@dwmri](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dwmri)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 1:48pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/net-agent-is-not-capturing-sending-spans-to-apm-elastic/314319/3 "2022-09-16T13:48:54Z")
Hi Greg, Thank you for the speedy response. We have tried going down the Profiler route as suggested, however we are hitting some issues with that when trying to start the application with the APM agent. This is showing in the Event Viewer upon application startup: "Session "EtwSessionForCLRElasticApm\_8d1790f8-bfee-429f-8cc2-31e88a418bf6" failed to start with the following error: 0xC0000022" This is the configuration that has been injected: > **[thumbnail image001](https://freeimage.host/i/thumbnail-image001.ixHcOu)** > > Image thumbnail image001 hosted in Freeimage.host We think it may be a permissions issue but we cannot find anything in the documentation that would point to where permissions need to be configured, would this perhaps need file permission changes to the DDL, or some other configuration within IIS to get the application and APM agent running? Many thanks, Dan ---
**Author:** ![GregKalapos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/gregkalapos/32/37205_2.png) [@GregKalapos](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/GregKalapos)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 10:30am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/net-agent-is-not-capturing-sending-spans-to-apm-elastic/314319/4 "2022-09-19T10:30:40Z")
Hi @dwmri, that ETW session is opened by the .NET APM Agent in order to collect GC metrics - and based on the error you pasted here, creating the ETW session fails. The only consequence of this is that the agent won't be able to collect GC metrics, but everything else should work - so it should still capture transactions, spans, and all the other metrics. Btw. I don't think profiler vs. other way of injecting the agent changes anything around the creation of ETW session - so maybe you had this with your previous setup as well. Also, in the .NET APM Agent logs, there should be a more detailed warning message which explains this. So, what I'm trying to say: that error message is only about capturing GC statistics, everything else should work. I'm not sure what the exact problem is in your case, so let's first clarify: does the agent in general work? Or it doesn't event capture anything? If it doesn't capture anything, I'd suggest to ignore this error right now, because it's not really related to the core problem (we can get back to it, but if the agent doesn't capture any data, then fixing the ETW session won't fix the overall issue). So, if the agent doesn't capture anything, then could you maybe attach the agent logs, first from the profiler? Details here under `ELASTIC_APM_PROFILER_LOG_DIR` [Profiler Auto instrumentation | APM .NET Agent Reference [master] | Elastic](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/apm/agent/dotnet/master/setup-auto-instrumentation.html) ---
**Author:** ![dwmri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/47e85d/32.png) [@dwmri](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dwmri)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 9:33am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/net-agent-is-not-capturing-sending-spans-to-apm-elastic/314319/5 "2022-09-21T09:33:09Z")
Hi Greg, The agent does work as we are still seeing URLs and performance metrics such as milliseconds per request, CPU, and memory spent on server etc. The spans / transactions are still not being captured. I have attached the trace output taken from VS Code, however the elastic APM log output is empty - I am not sure if the trace output taken from VS Code is what should be in the APM log, but hopefully it will help troubleshooting the missing span information. > ---
**Author:** ![dwmri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/47e85d/32.png) [@dwmri](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dwmri)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 9:02pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/net-agent-is-not-capturing-sending-spans-to-apm-elastic/314319/6 "2022-09-22T21:02:51Z")
Hi, We've tried a few extra steps to help pinpoint the issue but we're still coming up short. We've tried the following actions, and the only difference it is making is that some settings cause the trace log to contain an error referencing the performance profiler manager and a failure due to a fileNotFound Error, and with some other settings the trace log is empty. We have tried running the application within IIS 10.x+ with COMPLUS\_LoaderOptimization = 1, and we have also tried with ELASTIC\_APM\_PROFILER\_EXCLUDE\_INTEGRATIONS=AspNet. Both of these settings do not fix the missing spans, however from IIS and/ or VSCode with settings enabled / disable the metrics are still being captured. Our error is similar in output to the below issue, however to our knowledge we are not getting the singleton error so we're presumming the agent is starting up OK, especially as we're seeing metrics coming through from the application. [Auto instrumention - Metrics work, traces not received - #19 by forloop](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/auto-instrumention-metrics-work-traces-not-received/295559/19) This is the error and behaviour we are seeing when we disable the COMPLUS\_ parameter: > > > How assemblies are loaded is defined by the runtime host when it loads the runti…me into a process. In some scenarios where there can be multiple AppDomains in a process, such as multiple ASP.NET applications running in IIS and sharing an Application Pool, assemblies can be loaded as domain-neutral, to allow them to be shared across AppDomains, which typically happens for common assemblies loaded from the Global Assembly Cache (GAC). Domain-neutral assemblies are loaded into the App Domain named \`EE Shared Assembly Repository\` in CLR 4, which will then share these assemblies with other AppDomains in the process. > > When a profiler auto-instrumentation targets an assembly that is loaded domain-neutral, the assembly containing the instrumentation, Elastic.Apm.Profiler.Managed, must also be loaded domain-neutral, since IL rewriting performed by the profiler inserts calls to methods contained within Elastic.Apm.Profiler.Managed. The general rule is- \*\*if an assembly is loaded domain-neutral, all of its dependencies must be loaded domain-neutral\*\*. > > The runtime's loading decision can be influenced by implementing \`ICorProfilerCallback6::GetAssemblyReferences\`, to tell the runtime that an assembly reference will be added to the metadata of the assembly being loaded, at a later point in time. The runtime can then use this information to determine how to load the assembly. The Elastic APM profiler implements \`ICorProfilerCallback6::GetAssemblyReferences\` to add an assembly reference to Elastic.Apm.Profiler.Managed for every assembly it is called for, except those on skip lists. The desired outcome is for Elastic.Apm.Profiler.Managed to be loaded domain-neutral so that it can instrument assemblies that are loaded domain-neutral. > > A problem arises in this approach in that it appears. Elastic.Apm.Profiler.Managed cannot be loaded as domain-neutral because of one of its dependencies, including transient dependencies. My suspicion is that it might be related to Elastic.Apm's use of HttpClient in net461, which is defined in netstandard.dll. > > \## Current investigation > > \### Setup > > 1. Run AspNetFullFrameworkSampleApp in local IIS, in the Default Application Pool. > 2. Ensure AspNetFullFrameworkSampleApp is the only application running in the Default Application Pool. > 3. Configure profiler auto instrumentation by setting the following environment variables for the Default Application Pool (only possible in IIS 10+): > > \`\`\` > COR\_ENABLE\_PROFILING="1" > COR\_PROFILER\_PATH="\\\target\\debug\\elastic\_apm\_profiler.dll" /\> > COR\_PROFILER="{FA65FE15-F085-4681-9B20-95E04F6C03CC}" > > ELASTIC\_APM\_PROFILER\_HOME="\\\src\\Elastic.Apm.Profiler.Managed\\bin\\Release" > ELASTIC\_APM\_PROFILER\_INTEGRATIONS="\\\src\\Elastic.Apm.Profiler.Managed\\integrations.yml" > ELASTIC\_APM\_PROFILER\_LOG\_DIR="\\\logs" > ELASTIC\_APM\_PROFILER\_LOG="trace" > ELASTIC\_APM\_PROFILER\_LOG\_IL="1" > \`\`\` > 4. Run the application > 5. The default page opens successfully > 6. Hit the \`/Database\` page to trigger the instrumentation of System.Data.SQLite > 7. Observe a FileNotFoundException is thrown > > \`\`\` > Server Error in '/AspNetFullFrameworkSampleApp' Application. > > Could not load file or assembly 'Elastic.Apm.Profiler.Managed, Version=1.11.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=ae7400d2c189cf22' or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified. > \`\`\` > > \### Evaluation > > The log files captured in \`\\\logs\` provide details of what happens. > > In Elastic.Apm.Profiler.Managed.Loader\*.log, the Elastic.Apm.Profiler.Managed assembly fails to be loaded as domain neutral by the Elastic.Apm.Profiler.Managed.Loader assembly shim > > \`\`\` > \[2021-09-07T16:04:49.0383054+10:00\] \[ERROR\] Error loading managed assemblies. > System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not load file or assembly 'Elastic.Apm.Profiler.Managed, Version=1.11.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=ae7400d2c189cf22' or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified. > File name: 'Elastic.Apm.Profiler.Managed, Version=1.11.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=ae7400d2c189cf22' > at System.Reflection.RuntimeAssembly.\_nLoad(AssemblyName fileName, String codeBase, Evidence assemblySecurity, RuntimeAssembly locationHint, StackCrawlMark& stackMark, IntPtr pPrivHostBinder, Boolean throwOnFileNotFound, Boolean forIntrospection, Boolean suppressSecurityChecks) > at System.Reflection.RuntimeAssembly.InternalLoadAssemblyName(AssemblyName assemblyRef, Evidence assemblySecurity, RuntimeAssembly reqAssembly, StackCrawlMark& stackMark, IntPtr pPrivHostBinder, Boolean throwOnFileNotFound, Boolean forIntrospection, Boolean suppressSecurityChecks) > at System.Reflection.RuntimeAssembly.InternalLoad(String assemblyString, Evidence assemblySecurity, StackCrawlMark& stackMark, IntPtr pPrivHostBinder, Boolean forIntrospection) > at System.Reflection.RuntimeAssembly.InternalLoad(String assemblyString, Evidence assemblySecurity, StackCrawlMark& stackMark, Boolean forIntrospection) > at System.Reflection.Assembly.Load(String assemblyString) > at Elastic.Apm.Profiler.Managed.Loader.Startup.TryLoadManagedAssembly() > \`\`\` > > \[\`System.Reflection.RuntimeAssembly.\_nLoad\` is a internal call\](https://referencesource.microsoft.com/#mscorlib/system/reflection/assembly.cs,1911). I believe the FileNotFoundException might be misleading, and not the real underlying cause for the exception, because the elastic\_apm\_profiler\*.log indicates that the Elastic.Apm.Profiler.Managed assembly does get loaded, but it is loaded into the local AppDomain, not the domain-neutral AppDomain. Because it is loaded into the local App Domain and not the domain-neutral AppDomain, it won't be able to instrument System.Data.SQLite without being loaded into the domain-neutral AppDomain. However, the grant permissions of Elastic.Apm.Profiler.Managed when loaded into the domain-neutral AppDomain would need to match those of it being loaded into the local AppDomain, which I believe is the underlying issue for the error log. Further evidence to support this is that if \`Startup.TryLoadManagedAssembly\` is changed to explicitly load the Elastic.Apm.Profiler.Managed assembly that we know exists on disk, a \`FileNotFoundException\` is still thrown when hitting the \`/Database\` endpoint. The fundamental question though is why Elastic.Apm.Profiler.Managed assembly is loaded into the local AppDomain to begin with, and not the domain-neutral AppDomain. My suspicion is that it might be related to Elastic.Apm's use of HttpClient in net461, which is defined in netstandard.dll. Investigation requires removing this dependency from net461, by using \`HttpWebRequest\` instead of \`HttpClient\`, etc. > > \## Intermediate Workaround > > Assemblies can be \_forced\_ not to be loaded as domain-neutral, by using \`LoaderOptimization.SingleDomain\`. This can be achieved with > > \*\*Environment variable\*\* (preferable option) > > \`COMPlus\_LoaderOptimization=1\` > > or > > \*\*Registry settings\*\* (\_less preferable option\_) > > \`HKEY\_LOCAL\_MACHINE\\Software\\Microsoft\\.NETFramework\` create DWORD with value \`1\` > \`HKEY\_LOCAL\_MACHINE\\Software\\WOW6432Node\\Microsoft\\.NETFramework\` create DWORD with value \`1\` > > This solves this issue altogether. > > This setting has no effect on mscorlib, which is always loaded domain-neutral, so if mscorlib is a target for instrumentation, this workaround will not work. Another downside to this workaround is that if there are many AppDomains running in a process, which can commonly be the case with multiple applications using the same Application Pool in IIS, assemblies will not be shared, meaning each AppDomain will consume more memory and resources. Also, is there a support plan available with Elastic that would cover self-hosted setups - we are running Elasticsearch, multiple beats, Logstash, Kibana, and APM for multiple products in Production so having paid support would be very useful. I can see the Platinum subscription is available, does this cover self-hosted setups? ---
**Author:** ![GregKalapos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/gregkalapos/32/37205_2.png) [@GregKalapos](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/GregKalapos)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 4:40pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/net-agent-is-not-capturing-sending-spans-to-apm-elastic/314319/7 "2022-09-26T16:40:05Z")
Hi @dwmri, just to make sure we shoot for a realistic goal here: what you'll have with the profiler (and the reason I suggested is) that it covers a bit more auto instrumentation than your original setup. But that'd still only capture specific things - what those specific things are is listed here: [Supported technologies | APM .NET Agent Reference [1.12] | Elastic](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/apm/agent/dotnet/current/supported-technologies.html) So if your app does let's say a call to an oracle database, then the agent will capture that. But the profiler based agent still does not have the inferred span feature from java - so it won't capture your custom methods (let's say in a class where you have only your code and you don't call any of the libraries which are supported by auto instrumentation listed above). So... what kind of spans would you exactly expect? If it's something from your own code, then unfortunately that is a feature we'll need to implement. It's definitely on our radar, but it's not currently implemented. ---
**Author:** ![dwmri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/47e85d/32.png) [@dwmri](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dwmri)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 7:40am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/net-agent-is-not-capturing-sending-spans-to-apm-elastic/314319/8 "2022-10-03T07:40:14Z")
Hi Greg, Here are the libraries in use: - [ASP.NET](http://ASP.NET) (.NET Framework) in IIS, 4.6.1+ (IIS 7.0 or newer) - System.Net.Http.HttpClient - System.Net.HttpWebRequest We use Oracle, however not the dll version supported. So it sounds like the function / classes called from the above HTTP frameworks won't produce any kind of detailed tracing unless code is explicitly written to capture spans? ---
**Author:** ![GregKalapos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/gregkalapos/32/37205_2.png) [@GregKalapos](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/GregKalapos)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 6:32pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/net-agent-is-not-capturing-sending-spans-to-apm-elastic/314319/9 "2022-10-10T18:32:08Z")
> So it sounds like the function / classes called from the above HTTP frameworks won't produce any kind of detailed tracing unless code is explicitly written to capture spans? Yes, in this case unfortunately that's what the situation seems to be. > We use Oracle, however not the dll version supported. Could you maybe let us know which one? We have some ideas on how to handle these, which may cover it later: [Instrument implementations of base ADO.NET interfaces · Issue #1791 · elastic/apm-agent-dotnet · GitHub](https://github.com/elastic/apm-agent-dotnet/issues/1791) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 2:32pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/net-agent-is-not-capturing-sending-spans-to-apm-elastic/314319/10 "2022-10-31T14:32:47Z")
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